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Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 3:13 pm
by Mario Schweiger
If everything works perfect (like I would think about), I will post pictures of the fresh shed males, looking for females, tomorrow ;)

Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Thu Mar 24, 2011 9:51 pm
by Ilian Velikov
Mario, you say you've been out with your video camera! Any chance we can see some videos?

Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 8:55 am
by Mario Schweiger
First, I wanted to go to the place this morning.
But I have a lot of work with all the animals of my dead friend.
Weather forecast for the weekend is bad - cold and snow down to the lowlands.
So I will go next week again.
After having some good video sequences, I will post a ink to a 3 to 4 minutes movie here. Please be patient!

Mario

Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Fri Mar 25, 2011 9:34 pm
by Ilian Velikov
Thanks,Mario! I'm looking forward to watching them!

Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:06 pm
by Mario Schweiger
Today, 11 days after my last visit, I´ve been at my berus place again.
I arrived there nearly exact at 9:00 a.m.
Temperature has been 14°C in the shade, no clouds.
But too late. I only found 2 males and one female, "basking" in the light shade up to 11:30 a.m.
I think, all males have shed now, exuviae everywhere

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shedded skin of male 10/09 "in situ"


Like these two males, allready shed, also the female had bright new colours.
Unfortunately, like Daniel Bohle told me, after shedding, the adults will be "on their way" and dont sit still - waiting for you.
So no pics of them.

Around 10:30 I found a youngster of last year

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berus baby 1a


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berus baby 1b


Additional, "hundreds" of Zootocas in all sizes.

Next visit is planed for wednesday, April, 6th - and very early in the morning ;)

Mario

Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 1:55 pm
by Andre Schmid
Nice findings Mario ! I always love to see youngster pics :)

Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 3:23 pm
by Mario Schweiger
a little bit data playing ;)

shown is the male number 10, found in 2009 (individual/year of first observation - date of observations shown at pins).
yellow = observations in 2009
blue = observations in 2010
green = observations in 2011 (1x individual, 1x shed skin).

yellow bar = 10 metres.

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Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 6:48 pm
by Peter Oefinger
I think, I never would find a snake - even with Google Earth data! ;)

Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Sun Apr 03, 2011 7:22 pm
by Paul Lambourne
I had my first female adder of the year today!! ( I think judging by size and colouration) I will be monitoring the site to see if I can get some " duelling " adder shots :D

Kind regards, Paul

Re: adders near Salzburg

PostPosted: Mon Apr 11, 2011 1:39 pm
by Mario Schweiger
last weekend we had been at the Lacertidae meeting in Gersfeld/Rhön in Germany. Saturday afternoon we did a quick trip to the mountains nearby, to an area, called "Rotes Moor" to search for Vipera berus. - We found none :(
But beside around 50 Zootocas we saw some amphibians.
It must have been quite dry there during the last time!

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drying out egg clutches of Rana temporaria


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drying out egg clutches of Rana temporaria


Close by we found one subadult Rana temporaria

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subadult Rana temporaria


below logs and rocks some newts

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Lissotriton vulgaris


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Lissotriton vulgaris


Josef "Pepp" Schmidtler told us, its very uncommon to find L. vulgaris at such "a high altitude" in the German central mountains.
Below a larger rock we found 4 L. vulgaris and one L. helveticus together

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5 Lissotriton. The red arrow points to the L. helveticus


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Lissotriton helveticus


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difference between L. vulgaris (left) and L. helveticus (right)


During 4 hours in my moor nearby on Wednesday last week, I only found some Zootocas, but no Vipera berus. No clouds and much to warm (27°C at noon).
So I visited the place this morning again, arriving there around 8 a.m.
Within 5 hours, beside lots of Zootocas only one "subadult" Vipera berus male, approx. 45 cm. No adults to see.
Where the hell is the mating place - I havnt found it during all the years :x
I think the male, found today, doesnt join the mating. He was still on his winter/early spring place.

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todays aspect of the moor


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Zootoca "baby" from last year


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another view to the bog


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adult vivipara


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info sheet along the nature trail. watch the scientific name! The German words say: "This venomous adder likes to bask on rodden logs. The reputation of this nice snake is more worst than she would earn, biting only when heavily disturbed. But anyway, please stay on the trail.


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Vipera berus male


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Vipera berus male


btw, I´m very sorry, not replying to all your nice postings and uploaded good to very good pictures :(
But I´m running out of time at the moment.

Mario