Just a Natrix

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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Tue Jun 26, 2012 4:43 pm

Thank you Guys, I love this thread!!!

Give me some more strange looking Grass snakes!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Mario Schweiger » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:10 pm

Jürgen Gebhart wrote:Give me some more strange looking Grass snakes!!!!!!!!!!!!


ok,

a black, but still striped Natrix n. "persa" from Krk island. June 2006
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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Mario Schweiger » Tue Jun 26, 2012 6:15 pm

and Natrix n. helvetica (lateral bars) lanzai (dorsal bars) sicula (orange snout) from Pisa, Tuscany. April 1989

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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Tue Jun 26, 2012 10:58 pm

Another grass snake with orange cephalic stains- second post from the bottom- http://forum.przyroda.org/topics10/obse ... 5,1351.htm BTW- here is something about albinism among this species:
Schreiber E. 1912. Herpetologia Europeana. Jena, 1-960.
http://ziva.avcr.cz/2006-5/albinismus-u ... jkove.html
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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Matthieu Berroneau » Wed Jun 27, 2012 10:58 am

Hello everybody !
My first post here !

I have just seen two melanic Natrix this week-end !

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I also see an another one and a blue one two months ago :

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Great species !

I found the black Coronella austriaca last year in west Pyrénées, if I've time, maybe I'll wrote a small thing on this specimen...
An other picture :
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I've to look for this, but maybe I've some picture of ventral scales...
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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:17 am

Good that you jumped in, Matthieu!!! Great shots...

Are all the Natrix you showed members of ssp. astreptophora?

That Coronella is really weird. The pale edges of the scales seem to look like it will shed skin soon, no?
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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:28 am

Welcome Matthieu!

Wow, what a first post!!! Extreme nice snakes!
(Hope on your next post you show some Asp) ;) :)
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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Matthieu Berroneau » Wed Jun 27, 2012 11:39 am

Thanks you !

Jeroen:
In theory all this Natrix are helvetica (!!), but I've some indication and two paper under press that make me think that we can have or we have some astreptophora enter in SW Pyrénées... The blue one is a good example !

Yes, I think too that the Coronella will shed. I can't imagine the same after sheding !

Jürgen:
Yes, maybe some asp soon if I've time ! ;-)
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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Gabriel Martínez » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:39 pm

Hi Matthieu,

Very nice photos. I´m impressed with a blue Natrix in Pyrinees! When I talked about north Spain Natrix natrix I always thought in Burgos, Cantabria, Galicia, etc... where I have usually seen "ugly" colorated snakes (brown, grey, green). I didn´t know that in northeastern Spain is also possible to find the blue individuals typical of central and south Spain. Wow!
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Re: Just a Natrix

Postby Liam Russell » Wed Jun 27, 2012 1:49 pm

Some nice natrix here.

Unfortunately on of the few recorded in the UK was killed a couple of months ago by a someone "protecting his dog from an adder" :(

Here's a melanistic(ish), and a bit blue N. n. cetti


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