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Thank you Guys, I love this thread!!!

Give me some more strange looking Grass snakes!!!!!!!!!!!!

Jürgen Gebhart wrote:Give me some more strange looking Grass snakes!!!!!!!!!!!!

ok,

a black, but still striped Natrix n. "persa" from Krk island. June 2006

and Natrix n. helvetica (lateral bars) lanzai (dorsal bars) sicula (orange snout) from Pisa, Tuscany. April 1989

Another grass snake with orange cephalic stains- second post from the bottom- http://forum.przyroda.org/topics10/obse ... 5,1351.htm BTW- here is something about albinism among this species:
Schreiber E. 1912. Herpetologia Europeana. Jena, 1-960.
http://ziva.avcr.cz/2006-5/albinismus-u ... jkove.html

Hello everybody !
My first post here !

I have just seen two melanic Natrix this week-end !





I also see an another one and a blue one two months ago :





Great species !

I found the black Coronella austriaca last year in west Pyrénées, if I've time, maybe I'll wrote a small thing on this specimen...
An other picture :


I've to look for this, but maybe I've some picture of ventral scales...

Good that you jumped in, Matthieu!!! Great shots...

Are all the Natrix you showed members of ssp. astreptophora?

That Coronella is really weird. The pale edges of the scales seem to look like it will shed skin soon, no?

Welcome Matthieu!

Wow, what a first post!!! Extreme nice snakes!
(Hope on your next post you show some Asp)

Thanks you !

Jeroen:
In theory all this Natrix are helvetica (!!), but I've some indication and two paper under press that make me think that we can have or we have some astreptophora enter in SW Pyrénées... The blue one is a good example !

Yes, I think too that the Coronella will shed. I can't imagine the same after sheding !

Jürgen:
Yes, maybe some asp soon if I've time !

Hi Matthieu,

Very nice photos. I´m impressed with a blue Natrix in Pyrinees! When I talked about north Spain Natrix natrix I always thought in Burgos, Cantabria, Galicia, etc... where I have usually seen "ugly" colorated snakes (brown, grey, green). I didn´t know that in northeastern Spain is also possible to find the blue individuals typical of central and south Spain. Wow!

Some nice natrix here.

Unfortunately on of the few recorded in the UK was killed a couple of months ago by a someone "protecting his dog from an adder"

Here's a melanistic(ish), and a bit blue N. n. cetti