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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Niklas Ban » Wed Sep 10, 2014 10:21 am

Does someone know what happend with this story?!
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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Paul Bachhausen » Sun Sep 14, 2014 5:59 pm

Will go there next weekend
Hope to find the place
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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Paul Bachhausen » Sun Sep 21, 2014 10:01 pm

We saw 12 Speleomantes - great trip! - and some Salamandra.
adult:
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juvenile:
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S.s.t:
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see more:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/salamanderseiten/sets/72157647839863871/

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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Peter Oefinger » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:08 am

Interesting - so it seems to be a healthy population?
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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Paul Bachhausen » Mon Sep 22, 2014 6:49 am

Surely a healthy Population!
Able to colonize the quarries near to this one, but don't see any real problem for the nature there.
We found them together with I. alpestris, and saw salamandra in the same quarry.
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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Bobby Bok » Mon Sep 22, 2014 7:02 pm

Thanks for the update Paul, I have been following this thread with great interest. Very interesting to see that this species is able to survive the German climate and seemingly even thrives - being able to colonize new habitat. While I completely agree that this species probably does not pose the biggest threat to native fauna if we are talking about competition or so, the danger can also come in a less obvious form and these animals might act as vectors for several diseases...
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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Paul Bachhausen » Mon Sep 22, 2014 8:37 pm

Thats right Bobby - and there is no legitimation to bring alian species in our nature. But I think, they live there since many years - seems without problems.
On the other hand, we have a lot of other aliens like raccoons, cats .... that make real problems.
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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Sep 22, 2014 9:04 pm

Paul Bachhausen wrote:But I think, they live there since many years - seems without problems.

I'm probably repeating myself, but a low density fase is the typical start of nearly all invasion history. Not that I would imagine a Big Invasion will happen. Yet, bringing in an alien species which is able to maintain itself is by definition never completely without impact to the ecosystem. In other words, be careful with what you think is going on.
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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Paul Bachhausen » Tue Sep 23, 2014 6:44 am

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote: ... be careful with what you think is going on.

... no question - I agree in all points!
But I see greater problems with other species!
... and I wrote "seems" - that means we have to look at them what happens :!:
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Re: FOUND ANOTHER CAVE SALAMANDER

Postby Julius Zidorn » Wed Oct 01, 2014 11:11 am

Paul, it was very nice indeed! Last weekend I found another 7 animals there.
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