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some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 6:46 am
by Stephan Drees
at first some impressions of some finds in a very small heath area near Haltern am See.

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Zootoca vivipara & Lacerta agilis, all animals in situ
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they use the same sun spots there, sometimes one lays on the other. It seems that the two species don't feel disturbed from each other :o
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some youngsters
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I noticed that they use same hideaways although they are different species. agilis left, vivipara to his right. I know, not easy to see when the pics are so small
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Anguis fragilis
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I'm student in Bochum and there's a great botanic garden with a podarcis muralis population in the alpinum area, does anyone know their subspecies?

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Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 8:22 am
by Jürgen Gebhart
Nice pics, I like the pics with the agilis/vivipara together most, great!

Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 9:51 am
by Stephan Drees
thank you. ;)

anyone an idea about the subspecies of podarcis muralis in bochum? I've searched the internet but I can't find anything.

Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:54 am
by Jürgen Gebhart

Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 10:58 am
by Stephan Drees
thanks, I know this paper. Unfortunately the population is registered but there is no notice about the subspecies in Bochum :?

Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:04 am
by Peter Oefinger
Nice pictures - I like the agilis with the caterpillar!
The Podarcis looks like merremius (maybe brogniardii but it is doubtful if this is a seperate subspecies at all.) With a picture of an adult male, identification would be easier.
Regards
Peter

Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Tue May 25, 2010 11:09 am
by Stephan Drees
no problem, 6x in situ

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I hope it helps?

Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Wed May 26, 2010 6:38 am
by Peter Oefinger
Nice - the worm looks like a good meal ;)
For me they look like typical merremius, but brogniardi or muralis also would be possible (although rather unlikely).
Regards
Peter

Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Thu May 27, 2010 11:26 am
by Stephan Drees
yes, he enjoyed his worm. I was lucky to find him while eating ;)

thanks for your estimation Peter.

Re: some lizards of western germany

PostPosted: Mon May 31, 2010 11:43 am
by Jürgen Gebhart
I asked Ulich Schulte about the subspecies, he told me it is merremius/brogniardii.