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Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Tim Leerschool » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:30 pm

Hallo everyone,

my first post here including pictures (a bit overdue but better late than never ;) )

I spend my vacation with my family in Switzerland. With 4 sisters that are not to keen on herps it was difficult to really spend time on finding some. Still, whenever I had time I grabbed my mountain-bike and started cycling and stopping at some sites that looked good. We first visited Ticino because my sisters wanted a tan :lol: ... Hot weather and the days were mostly spended laying on the beach.

This resulted in the following pictures! Hope you enjoy!

I found my first reptiles in a old city-center. Not surprising for these wall-crawlers but still surprising to see.
Podarcis muralis maculiventris
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And their habitat:
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The next day we had rain in the morning and in the afternoon it started to clear with good conditions for snakes. Back on my cycle to a little place I saw a couple days earlier.
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Lifting these plates resulted in my first H. viridiflavus! I was thrilled to find this species. Snappy snakes that show a lot of character!
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Also found these among the leaf-litter:
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Playing with the settings of my camera resulted in this:
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Aslo found this little flower. The shape of it's leaves made me think this is an orchid but I have no clue what so ever on the exact species.
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Then We left to Berner-Oberland. Nice camping with some fantastic views!
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A couple of hiking tours were not very succesfull. the temperatures were very high for reptiles and everything was found flipping things (although I noticed that some people swear by flipping things is the way to find some animals, and I don't disagree :lol: )
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A couple of walks in some ideal V. aspis habitat led to nothing. Temperatures were to hot by the time we arrived. When we returned I checked out the surrounding with some surprising finds:
I beieve this is the most beautiful salamander that I've seen so far.
Salamandra atra
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Also found N. natrix along a fast flowing river. Pretty strange habitat I thought because the river would be dangerous for me to swim. Still pleased with the find!
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Also seen I. alpestris and B. bufo
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But the most stunning find during the entire vacation was by far a Edelweiss! Fantastic and iconic little flower.
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Hope you enjoyed.

Kind regards,

Tim
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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Sjuul Verhaegh » Sun Aug 28, 2011 5:50 pm

I enjoyed Tim :)

Like the first picture of the S. atra! :mrgreen:

See you soon ;)
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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Sun Aug 28, 2011 6:35 pm

The landscape pics from the Berner Oberland are fantastic!!!
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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Paul Lambourne » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:36 pm

Tim,
atra pics great, but bufo picture outstanding.. I love the little fellas..Ticino (happy Grégoire :D ) is a fantastic area for herping.. and climbing.. its a win win..
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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Kristian Munkholm » Sun Aug 28, 2011 7:45 pm

Thanks for the report and congrats on your finds :)

I agree with Jürgen - your landscape pics are wonderful.

Your flower is not an orchid but Impatiens sp. I am not familiar with the Swiss species of this genus but it probably shouldn't be too hard to ID at species level.
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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Grégoire Meier » Mon Aug 29, 2011 12:42 pm

Good, because you know how to write correctly Ticino ;) . I dare not imagine how all of you, however you pronounce it! (definitely in the same way I write English) :evil: :D

You have been awarded, finding a Hierophis viridiflavus not too black, as are the majority of us!
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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Sebastian Holzki » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:09 pm

Great pictures.
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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Tim Leerschool » Mon Aug 29, 2011 4:50 pm

Thanks for all you compliments!

The area were we've been looked fantastic. I sure tried to capture that on camera! I'm glad you all like it.

Grégoire Meier wrote:Good, because you know how to write correctly Ticino ;) . I dare not imagine how all of you, however you pronounce it! (definitely in the same way I write English) :evil: :D

You have been awarded, finding a Hierophis viridiflavus not too black, as are the majority of us!


I did my best! I've read how some people tend to write it wrong ;)

Is the carbonarius sub-species for Hierophis viridiflavus still valid? I thought not. THe specimen I caught luckily had some colour! The yellow on them is fantastic. This was my first and I hope to find some brighter coloured ones in the future!

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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Mario Schweiger » Tue Aug 30, 2011 7:45 am

Tim Leerschool wrote:
Is the carbonarius sub-species for Hierophis viridiflavus still valid? I thought not. THe specimen I caught luckily had some colour! The yellow on them is fantastic. This was my first and I hope to find some brighter coloured ones in the future!

Best regards,

Tim


Tim,
see PDF 1896 -Joger, U., U. Fritz, D. Guicking, S. Kalyabina-Hauf, Z.T. Nagy & M. Wink (2007): Phylogeography of western Palaearctic reptiles – Spatial and temporal speciation patterns.- Zoologischer Anzeiger 246 (2007): 293–313
[EDIT]: is in the database now too: PDF 2362
and PDF-2362: Nagy, Z.T., Joger, U., Guicking, D., Amann, T., Wink, M., 2002. Phylogeography of the European whip snake, Coluber (Hierophis) viridiflavus Lacepede, 1789, inferred from nucleotide sequences of the mitochondrial cytochrome b gene and ISSR genomic fingerprinting. Biota 3, 109–118.

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Re: Vacation in Switzerland (Ticino and Berner Oberland)

Postby Kevin Byrnes » Wed Aug 31, 2011 9:43 am

The mysterious plant looks like Himalayan Balsam Impatiens grandulifera
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