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Re: Alonnissos, Northern Sporades

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Dec 14, 2012 2:05 pm

Well... To me, it's clear enough. The shape of the parietals is even also different. All the colour aspects you listed are unreliable, especially post mortem, except perhaps the striped scales, but that is hardly visible in dead ones like this. I learned from misidentifying a dead snake on Samos ;)
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Re: Alonnissos, Northern Sporades

Postby Ilian Velikov » Fri Dec 14, 2012 3:10 pm

Ok, what you're saying makes sence - caspius it is.
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Re: Alonnissos, Northern Sporades

Postby Mark Barber » Fri Dec 14, 2012 4:59 pm

Here's another close up if that helps...
#RTA close up.JPG
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Re: Alonnissos, Northern Sporades

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Dec 14, 2012 7:31 pm

... which has me doubting again ;) :oops:
It seems I CAN see the lining of that typical Malpolon frontale now...
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Re: Alonnissos, Northern Sporades

Postby Ilias Strachinis » Fri Dec 14, 2012 11:49 pm

Still caspius to me: eye-mouth opening proportions, shape and order of scales in general, too short and round prefrontals (malpolon has long V shaped prefrontals), too long (big) internasals, verical bars on supralabials, shape of last supralabial, etc. Dead reptiles often go bluish.
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Re: Alonnissos, Northern Sporades

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Sat Dec 15, 2012 7:21 am

Ilias Strachinis wrote:Dead reptiles often go bluish.

Very true. I remember bright blue DOR vivipara and agilis.
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Re: Alonnissos, Northern Sporades

Postby Ilian Velikov » Sat Dec 15, 2012 2:22 pm

Yes, looks more like caspius now looking at the close up. I can just see the lighter band in the middle of some of the scales + everything you guys said.
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Re: Alonnissos, Northern Sporades

Postby Mark Hanger » Fri Feb 12, 2016 11:01 am

Just for the record, I visited Alonnissos about 20 years ago. I saw a few very large capius, and a DOR V.ammodytes.
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