Small Quiz for you: which snake is this?

[Berislav Horvatic]

Holy shit!
If I were to say it's a Natrix natrix, would it ruin the remnants of my already shaky reputation?
Or is it a crazy N. tessellata? But the eyes are not visible, and the resolution is too weak, so...

[Ruggero M.]

Aberrant pattern, but from colours and head shape I say Natrix natrix without big doubts.

[Edvard Mizsei]

what about this one?

H. gemonensis?

Albania, 2013

[Ruggero M.]

Good idea a blackish gemo: the middle dorsal zig zag design is typical. I would agree and deny my early determination of Natrix natrix!

[Berislav Horvatic]

Good idea a blackish gemo: the middle dorsal zig zag design is typical.
I would agree and deny my early determination of Natrix natrix!

But is it the same snake as before?! I think not. I'm quite positive it isn't. So, don't rush...

[Bobby Bok]

Even though many snake species defecate when handled, Natrix is famous for it and seeing some remnant faeces on this snakes back I would also bet for Natrix

[Alexandre Roux]

Even though many snake species defecate when handled, Natrix is famous for it and seeing some remnant faeces on this snakes back I would also bet for Natrix

Just not to be with you I'll go for a H.gemonensis too !

[Berislav Horvatic]

Just not to be with you I'll go for a H. gemonensis too !

Just risking to prove being a total idiot, or a "pain in the ass", may I remind you that what we're discussing
are two different photos of two (most probably) different snakes, from different sources... So, even if they
might happen to be of the same species (which I don't believe), the individuals shown here are not one and
the same... Or have I perhaps missed something that's obvious to everybody else around here but me?!
So, please, puh-leez, just take the trouble of stating clearly which of the two offered riddles you actually
refer to... Thank you.

[Daniel Bohle]

I say: NO Natrix

[Ruggero M.]

Bero, I never thought the two pictures are of the same snake!