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Re: Naxos

Postby Andre Schmid » Tue Jan 05, 2016 5:10 pm

Thanks for th pictures Mario ! Exactly what I want to find :mrgreen:
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Re: Naxos

Postby Guillaume Gomard » Thu Jan 07, 2016 12:49 pm

10 years ago I´ve been to Naxos which left me a pretty good impression although the island was indeed quite touristic (again, it was in summer). Much more interesting to me was the visit to Amorgos easily reachable by boat from Naxos. This island is much wilder and also has some interesting snakes to offer (-stripeless- E.quatuorlineata, E. jaculus).

Some info at:
http://www.zobodat.at/pdf/HER_20_1_2_0094-0096.pdf
http://www.jstor.org/stable/1441914?seq ... b_contents

P.S: As far as I know, there should not be any ammo on Amorgos (see e.g.: http://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ANNA_52_0161-0163.pdf)
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Re: Naxos

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:47 pm

Guillaume Gomard wrote:As far as I know, there should not be any ammo on Amorgos (see e.g.: http://www.zobodat.at/pdf/ANNA_52_0161-0163.pdf)

Indeed. These are the Cyclades with ammodytes: Andros, Dilos, Epano, Ios, Iraklia, Koufinisi, Mykonos, Naxos, Paros, Antiparos, Sikinos, Stroggylo, Syros, Tinos. If not, let me know asap, because the curtain will drop soon on our book. ;)

The anti-Naxos lobby seems to forget that Peter's main goal is probably the ubiquitous erhardii, though. ;)
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Re: Naxos

Postby Peter Oefinger » Thu Jan 07, 2016 2:57 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:The anti-Naxos lobby seems to forget that Peter's main goal is probably the ubiquitous erhardii, though.

I want to see erhardii from any central Cyclades Island - not particular on Naxos.
But I also want to see L. trilinieata citrovittata: Now, Tinos, Syros, Andros, Naxos and Ios remain.
Among these, Naxos is the one with Eryx and quatorlineata: Two species - shame on me - I haven't seen so far. :)
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Re: Naxos

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:19 pm

Peter Oefinger wrote:
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:The anti-Naxos lobby seems to forget that Peter's main goal is probably the ubiquitous erhardii, though.

I want to see erhardii from any central Cyclades Island - not particular on Naxos.
But I also want to see L. trilinieata citrovittata: Now, Tinos, Syros, Andros, Naxos and Ios remain.
Among these, Naxos is the one with Eryx and quatorlineata: Two species - shame on me - I haven't seen so far. :)


I understand - as not everyone here probably knows a surprising link was made between citrovittata and Lacerta pamphylica (Sagonas et al. 2014, that Peter brought back to (my) memory).

Well, for those snakes, Amorgos sure seems better.
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Re: Naxos

Postby Mario Schweiger » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:42 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:I understand - as not everyone here probably knows a surprising link was made between citrovittata and Lacerta pamphylica (Sagonas et al. 2014, that Peter brought back to (my) memory).


PDF-6595 in DB :)
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Re: Naxos

Postby Guillaume Gomard » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:43 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Indeed. These are the Cyclades with ammodytes: Andros, Dilos, Epano, Ios, Iraklia, Koufinisi, Mykonos, Naxos, Paros, Antiparos, Sikinos, Stroggylo, Syros, Tinos. If not, let me know asap, because the curtain will drop soon on our book. ;)


I guess you partly rely on Chondropoulos 1989 checklist, right? I was just wondering if V.ammodytes was recently reported on Paros? Any picture?
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Re: Naxos

Postby Mario Schweiger » Thu Jan 07, 2016 3:53 pm

Guillaume Gomard wrote: I was just wondering if V.ammodytes was recently reported on Paros? Any picture?


recent?
this one is from July 1988, NW of Paros town in the hills
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Re: Naxos

Postby Guillaume Gomard » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:03 pm

Cool picture, Mario! Your ammo-gallery should be huge ;) Although by recent I rather had in mind t>2000. It´s anyway interesting to see a picture of a viper from there. I think that for a herper, there are still a lot of opportunities to have some nice expeditions in all those small islands. Peter, Andre, we rely on you guys 8-)
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Re: Naxos

Postby Mario Schweiger » Thu Jan 07, 2016 4:19 pm

btw, does anybody know, from which (probably greek) publication these drawings are:
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