Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Thu Apr 27, 2017 6:53 pm
by Peter Oefinger
Hello everybody,
in late March, I had the pleasure to enjoy this year's season opening on the Greek islands of Rhodos and Kastellorizo with a team of non-European Salamander enthusiasts.
Here's my report:
http://www.bpo-natura.de/en/index.php?id=741Hope you enjoy!
- Eirenis modestus
- Lyciasalamandra luschani
- Blanus strauchi
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Thu Apr 27, 2017 8:31 pm
by Thomas Reich
Hi Peter
Once again a nice and entertaining report from you. Good to hear that Trachylepis aurata seems not to be that hard to find in early spring. I will try to find this species myself sooner or later.
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Fri Apr 28, 2017 11:27 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Peter, shouldn't you go and find all lilfordi species rather than guiding old Brits?
Nicely done, gentlemen! Gotta love the candy mander!
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Sun Apr 30, 2017 4:01 pm
by Peter Oefinger
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Peter, shouldn't you go and find all lilfordi species
Right, but I also had to do a lizard job on these islands
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Mon May 01, 2017 3:54 pm
by Paul Lambourne
Less of the old !
It was an extremely enjoyable trip, the density of salamanders was amazing.. a really beautiful species.
Without causing a riot.. someone really needs to get a grip on how herpers define Europe though.. some go by Jeroen's paper, some by jeroen, bobby, wouter and jans book, some on geology , some on accosiation to a European country in the case of islands that geographically and geologically are more akin to non European countries.. birders do the western pealarctic .. what's a boy to do???
Any how, as jeroen pointed out, I'm old now so it can't be long till Alzheimer's kicks in and I can remember what I've seen...
Paul
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Mon May 01, 2017 4:12 pm
by Ilian Velikov
Good job! You found a lot of interesting species.
Paul Lambourne wrote:some on accosiation to a European country in the case of islands that geographically and geologically are more akin to non European countries..
I don't want to be a prick but how so? Geographically it is closer to Europe than the islands off the northern coast of Norway and geologically it's mostly limestone (nothing that doesn't occur in Europe)
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Mon May 01, 2017 9:47 pm
by Paul Lambourne
Woah cowboy!
I said islands, I wasn't talking specifically of Kastellorizo.. but you can swim to turkey from it
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Tue May 02, 2017 2:01 am
by Ilian Velikov
Paul Lambourne wrote:Woah cowboy!
I said islands, I wasn't talking specifically of Kastellorizo.. but you can swim to turkey from it
Sorry I thought we are talking about another group of "non-European" islands
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Tue May 02, 2017 9:59 am
by Peter Oefinger
Come on, Paul: Now that you have been on Kastellorizo you can easily define it as a part of Europe.
Re: Rhodos & Kastellorizo, March 2017
Posted:
Tue May 02, 2017 3:43 pm
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Kastellorizo is in our book, but not in Europe. Just like the UK...