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siculus vs melisellensis again ;)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 10:24 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Which is which?

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Re: siculus vs melisellensis again ;)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 1:30 pm
by Mario Schweiger
on top siculus for sure: in meli the dorsal stripe "never" (in 99,9%) reaches the neck.
on bottom it is meli nearly for sure

Re: siculus vs melisellensis again ;)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 4:02 pm
by Berislav Horvatic
Mario Schweiger wrote:in meli the dorsal stripe "never" (in 99,9%) reaches the neck.

Never heard of that, but I'm always delighted to learn something new.

Re: siculus vs melisellensis again ;)

PostPosted: Sat Jun 17, 2017 5:15 pm
by Mario Schweiger
Berislav Horvatic wrote:
Mario Schweiger wrote:in meli the dorsal stripe "never" (in 99,9%) reaches the neck.

Never heard of that, but I'm always delighted to learn something new.
:D
so you should run through the picture databases ;)
http://vipersgarden.at/ARdb/species.php?cat=2&subcat=42&subcat3=Podarcis+melisellensis
and here, in the 2nd row, left is the only one I know.
btw, you should have pictures of the same specimen :lol:

http://lacerta.de/AS/Taxon.php?Genus=19&Species=83&Subspecies=155

...and to prevent a further discussion: a few (1 or 2) little single spots are possible, but never a stripe

Re: siculus vs melisellensis again ;)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:34 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Thanks, Mario! I suspected the outcome but I'll never feel confident without asking you, it seems. ;)

So the meli female in our book is an aberrant one.....

Re: siculus vs melisellensis again ;)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 6:40 am
by Mario Schweiger
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:
So the meli female in our book is an aberrant one.....


Why? Because of three little dots? :lol:

Re: siculus vs melisellensis again ;)

PostPosted: Sun Jun 18, 2017 7:37 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Mario Schweiger wrote:
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:
So the meli female in our book is an aberrant one.....


Why? Because of three little dots? :lol:

Dunno.