Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Pablo Deschepper » Wed Jul 05, 2017 9:57 pm

Wow, nice list! And stunning pictures!
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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Thor Hakonsen » Sun Jul 09, 2017 9:51 am

So, unfortunatly Photobucket has now f*****d up all my trip reports/pictures when they changed their accounts this week..
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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Tue Jul 11, 2017 9:05 pm

That's horrible... For all of us too.
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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Tue Apr 03, 2018 1:15 pm

Thor were you looking for Triturus?
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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Thor Hakonsen » Tue Apr 03, 2018 2:24 pm

Michal Szkudlarek wrote:Thor were you looking for Triturus?


No, not really. But we saw some, But my knowledge of newts is very limited. We met up with some germans (Alex Pieh, Michael Wilms) and they did look more for them and found some species. I think they might have trip report some where.
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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Alexander Pieh » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:25 pm

Triturus ivanbureschi.jpg
Triturus ivanbureschi
Dear Thor,
as you know we enjoyed meeting up with you, the other Wikings, Jörg and Michael.
It is a shame that we have lost your pictures here in the forum!

I also don´t want to bore anyone with my writing.
However, it was a great trip with great company, great findings, in a great area, with enough food and some beer.

Yes, we have found also some newts. Lissotriton v. schmidtleri was very common,
L. vulgaris schmidtleri.jpg
L. vulgaris schmidtleri
Triturus ivanbureschi was hard to find.
We could not find adult Salamandra s. werneri.
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Salamandra s. werneri


Sincerely
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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Fri Apr 06, 2018 7:58 pm

Synonyms: Triturus vulgaris schmidtleri RAXWORTHY, 1990; Triturus vulgaris schmidtlerorum RAXWORTHY, 1990
Subspecies: none
Distribution: European and western (but not NW = north and NE of Marmara Sea) Turkey

no Greece mentioned in our database :?
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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Alexander Pieh » Sat Apr 07, 2018 12:02 am

Dear Michal,
please read:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4361781/

"The range of schmidtleri protrudes further into the Balkan Peninsula, but its range limit is as yet unclear; newts with mitochondrial DNA typical of schmidtleri have been recorded as far north-west as easternmost Greece and central Bulgaria (Pabijan et al. 2014)."
Check also Speybroeck et al. 2016.

Take a close look at the hind feet. They are differnt to L. v. graecus. We found the second Taxa near to Olymp (thanks to Benny T.). Sorry for the bad pic
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Re: Thrace and Thessaloniki, Greece - may 2017

Postby Alexander Pieh » Sat Apr 07, 2018 9:02 pm

Some further pics from our trip to Thrace.
The Bufo bufo was found by Thor.
Any comments concerning the Pelopylax are more than wellcome and
however, the cutest face in Thrace was Pelobates syriacus.
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Bombina variegata
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Bufo bufo
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