My summer in herps

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My summer in herps

Postby Petreanu Catalin » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:05 pm

Hi everyone, now that summer ends and fall begins, the little cold blooded crawlies will go to their big sleep soon. For me, this summer was great. I want to show you some photos I took, though I'm awful when it comes to taking pictures. Pleade correct me if I'm wrong about the species.
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It looks like a Bufo virdis, but while digging, my grandma found two of them in a hole, maybe mating
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Same frog, very scared when I took it in the forest, several hundered feet from the nearest pond
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Rana ridibunda???- Fell in a water bucket
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Hyla arborea-at night in my flower pots
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Dead Natrix tessellata or Coronella austriaca. What do you think
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Dead Natrix natrix-Danube Delta
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Lacerta virdis-juvenile
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Lacerta virdis- Portile de fier, Romania
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Re: My summer in herps

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Fri Sep 08, 2017 6:16 pm

I think it is Coronella austriaca, not Natrix.
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Re: My summer in herps

Postby Ruggero Morimando » Sun Sep 10, 2017 8:55 am

Dear Petreanu: smooth snakes and tessellata are very different snakes.
Look carefully on the web at least at 50 pictures of each species.
If you do not see the differences at a glance, you must reason like a computer... :lol:
Has the snake smooth or keeled scales?
Has the snake an elongated and pointed head with rather big "bulging" eyes or, on the contrary, a shorter head with a short and thick and stocky neck?
Which colours I see? Which markings?
I hope you agree now your snake is a Coronella austriaca! ;)
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Re: My summer in herps

Postby Petreanu Catalin » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:06 am

Ruggero Morimando wrote:Dear Petreanu: smooth snakes and tessellata are very different snakes.
Look carefully on the web at least at 50 pictures of each species.
If you do not see the differences at a glance, you must reason like a computer... :lol:
Has the snake smooth or keeled scales?
Has the snake an elongated and pointed head with rather big "bulging" eyes or, on the contrary, a shorter head with a short and thick and stocky neck?
Which colours I see? Which markings?
I hope you agree now your snake is a Coronella austriaca! ;)

My first thought was that it was a smooth snake, but I'm never sure of myself. As well as I'm not sure of that frog and that toad.
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Re: My summer in herps

Postby Tom Hoogesteger » Sun Sep 10, 2017 4:01 pm

Yes, the snake is Coronella austriaca and the toad is Bufo viridis. The frog is either Pelophylax ridibundus or esculentus.
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Re: My summer in herps

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Sun Sep 10, 2017 5:09 pm

Tom Hoogesteger wrote:Yes, the snake is Coronella austriaca and the toad is Bufo viridis. The frog is either Pelophylax ridibundus or esculentus.

Peleophylax lessonae is present in Romania too.
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Re: My summer in herps

Postby Ilian Velikov » Sun Sep 10, 2017 7:30 pm

Michal Szkudlarek wrote:
Tom Hoogesteger wrote:Yes, the snake is Coronella austriaca and the toad is Bufo viridis. The frog is either Pelophylax ridibundus or esculentus.

Peleophylax lessonae is present in Romania too.


That's true but the one from the photo doesn't look like lessonae. It lacks the yellow colour on the flanks and thighs. I'd also go for either ridibundus or esculentus.
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Re: My summer in herps

Postby Tom Hoogesteger » Sun Sep 10, 2017 11:18 pm

Ilian Velikov wrote:
Michal Szkudlarek wrote:
Tom Hoogesteger wrote:Yes, the snake is Coronella austriaca and the toad is Bufo viridis. The frog is either Pelophylax ridibundus or esculentus.

Peleophylax lessonae is present in Romania too.


That's true but the one from the photo doesn't look like lessonae. It lacks the yellow colour on the flanks and thighs. I'd also go for either ridibundus or esculentus.


Exactly. Also the tibia seem too long for P. lessonae.
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