Bufo siculus matching

Bufo siculus matching

Postby Alessadro Barra » Sun Feb 15, 2015 11:11 pm

Hi, a few days ago walking Mount Pellegrino, located in Palermo. Taking herping I came across a small breeding site of Sicilian green toad (Bufo siculus).
I hope you like this short report.
PS: Sorry for my bad English.

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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Feb 16, 2015 11:35 am

Welcome!

Very nice pics of Bufotes boulengeri siculus :twisted:
I think I may have visited that pond 10 years ago.
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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Alessadro Barra » Mon Feb 16, 2015 1:32 pm

Thanks for the welcome, I knew that it had been split in Bufotes and that even some people consider it a subspecies as you described. I did some research but I only found a lot of confusion on the splitting of the Genus, not to mention the species itself. I would like to understand more sincerely, wrote Bufo siculus to remain conservative. But surely there is someone who knows more than me and will help me to understand more.
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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Feb 16, 2015 2:39 pm

I have written the answers somewhere in this thread, I believe =>
viewtopic.php?f=27&t=1038
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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Alessadro Barra » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:20 pm

Thanks for the link, but it is always unclear. I have read various publications, including a 2008 that I put as a species in its own right.
Here's the link: http://www.biomedcentral.com/1471-2148/8/56
I am very interested in the subject, if anyone has any news or opinion I'd like to discuss.
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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Feb 16, 2015 4:41 pm

Apologies, I should have inserted this =>
viewtopic.php?f=4&t=1472&p=14135&hilit=boulengeri#p14135

Nothing has changed since then - restricted gene flow between siculus/boulengeri and viridis/variabilis/balearicus has been nicely demonstrated, but not within either of the two clusters.
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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Alessadro Barra » Mon Feb 16, 2015 5:01 pm

Thanks a lot was very kind, there's now a little more clarity. :)
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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Bobby Bok » Mon Feb 16, 2015 9:19 pm

Very nice! Sadly when I was there last year the entire mountain was somehow a forbidden area for tourists :cry: But I would love to see some more Sicilian herps so if you have more pictures, keep them coming!
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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Alessadro Barra » Tue Feb 17, 2015 4:31 pm

Thanks :) When you have been to Palermo? I would not upload photos of other species, maybe I could go off topic. Would agree to open a new topic?
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Re: Bufo siculus matching

Postby Bobby Bok » Tue Feb 17, 2015 7:27 pm

I was there last year in early May -> http://www.herpsafari.nl/tripreports-eu ... ia-sicily/

And yes! I think I am not the only one who would like to see more pictures of amphibians and reptiles on this board ;)
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