Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Ruggero M. » Mon Sep 21, 2015 3:31 pm

https://www.dropbox.com/sh/24twjmgqefeb ... Yu2Oa?dl=0

In one of the videos one can see the "caterpillar" movement of this female longissimus.
The snake was found by my brother.

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Female Zamenis longissimus "in situ"
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Re: Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Massimo Trentin » Wed Sep 23, 2015 5:43 am

Nice videos Ruggero...and nice specimen,quite unusual for Tuscany (I think),where is tipically found the black-yellow pattern.
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Re: Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Ruggero M. » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:07 am

Massimo Trentin wrote:Nice videos Ruggero...and nice specimen,quite unusual for Tuscany (I think),where is tipically found the black-yellow pattern.



Thanks, Massimo, but it's an aesculapian, not a viridiflavus! ;)
Viridiflavus do not move or behave like this guy does... :P
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Re: Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Massimo Trentin » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:17 am

Ruggero Morimando wrote:
Massimo Trentin wrote:Nice videos Ruggero...and nice specimen,quite unusual for Tuscany (I think),where is tipically found the black-yellow pattern.



Thanks, Massimo, but it's an aesculapian, not a viridiflavus! ;)
Viridiflavus do not move or behave like this guy does... :P


Aaagh !!! Epic fail :D
My mind was focused on viridiflavus (I don't know why) even if I read the post at the beginning.
Sorry for the mistake...I know viridiflavus would eventually disappear in a while :D .
I think I was still sleeping :oops: .
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Re: Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Massimo Trentin » Wed Sep 23, 2015 8:34 am

O.T. I noticed that the behavior of aesculapian is in some ways very similar to the N.american P.obsoletus, starting from the "en accordeon" attitude (that,i.e. corn snake doesn't show).
Not to mention that head shape is very similar too,would be interesting to know why two species now so far away each other are so similar in different ways (common ancestor pre ice age?).
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Re: Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Ruggero M. » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:14 am

Massimo Trentin wrote:O.T. I noticed that the behavior of aesculapian is in some ways very similar to the N.american P.obsoletus, starting from the "en accordeon" attitude (that,i.e. corn snake doesn't show).
Not to mention that head shape is very similar too,would be interesting to know why two species now so far away each other are so similar in different ways (common ancestor pre ice age?).



http://www.panoramicvillas.com/blog/wp- ... -snake.jpg

I think corn snakes stay "en accordeon" too.
And I've also seen and photographed a Natrix maura (actually seen more than one specimen of this species) "en accordeon" position on asphalted roads.
But, I agree with you, the "en accordeon" position is very typical for the arboreal and semiarboreal species, with good backbone mobility and good muscular tone and strenght!

Off Topic... http://www.reptilerally.com/SUBSITE%20D ... erping.htm Look at the big beauty of the cornsnake of this page! A Florida wonder! :P
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Re: Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Ruggero M. » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:25 am

Natrix maura "en accordeon", after a storm, over lukewarm asphalted road

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Low quality cell phone picture, sorry...
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Re: Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Massimo Trentin » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:33 am

Thanks for your elucidation Ruggero ;)
As you stated,"en accordeon" is more typical for arboreal/semi-arboreal species;maybe that's why I've never observed it in my corn snake and often in my Texas rat snake.
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Re: Melanistic longissimus "en accordeon" in Toscana

Postby Massimo Trentin » Wed Sep 23, 2015 10:34 am

Massimo Trentin wrote:Thanks for your elucidation Ruggero ;)
As you stated,"en accordeon" is more typical for arboreal/semi-arboreal species;maybe that's why I've never observed it in my corn snake and often in my Texas rat snake.


Except for N.maura,of course :D
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