trip for Vipera walser

Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Sun Jul 17, 2016 2:41 pm

Bobby Bok wrote:I put a little story online about this minitrip as well:
http://www.herpsafari.nl/tripreports-eu ... -nw-italy/

Love it! :D ;) :lol:
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Ruggero Morimando » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:32 pm

Same places during last week-end with Massimo, but we did not go to higher altitudes because it was too hard for us. So no walser found... :?: Many nasty horseflies, and only 4 aspis, two of which photographed. ;)

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frog.jpg

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Black bellied male

coronella red.jpg
Red bellied female

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Parasitized opilion

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In situ: big male

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Same

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Small black Natrix natrix

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Beautiful small female


Massimo, am I right with snake sex determination? Do I remember well the sex of the big austriaca? :?
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Massimo Trentin » Mon Aug 01, 2016 4:45 pm

Well,if I'm not wrong the 1st black bellied was a female and the smaller red bellied a male :D .
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Aug 05, 2016 7:43 am

Ruggero Morimando wrote:Same places during last week-end with Massimo, but we did not go to higher altitudes because it was too hard for us. So no walser found... :?:


We found walser within the first meters after leaving the village.
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Ruggero Morimando » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:36 am

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:
Ruggero Morimando wrote:Same places during last week-end with Massimo, but we did not go to higher altitudes because it was too hard for us. So no walser found... :?:


We found walser within the first meters after leaving the village.


Migratory behavior of this new species towards higher altitudes? :lol:

Jokes apart, we were probably just unlucky, but near the village the only animals present were horseflies.
We began to find aspis and austriaca well far from the village (I would say at about 1500 m), and we have been till 1600-1700 m altitude maximum if not higher.
What do you say Massimo? :?

P.s. I would like to visit a nearby valley in Piemonte were walser is almost surely present
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Massimo Trentin » Fri Aug 05, 2016 10:46 am

Yes Ruggero ,you're right,around the village we could only see wall lizards and loads of horseflies.
We found snakes higher,but no walser :? .
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Ruggero Morimando » Fri Aug 05, 2016 11:41 am

Massimo Trentin wrote:Yes Ruggero ,you're right,around the village we could only see wall lizards and loads of horseflies.
We found snakes higher,but no walser :? .


Yes Massimo, I've controlled and we were maximum between 1700 and 1750 meters above sea level.
Next time we will join Jeroen's group: they will show us where to find the walser, and we will show them how to be persecuted by horseflies! :lol:
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Massimo Trentin » Sat Aug 06, 2016 6:43 am

Ruggero Morimando wrote:
Massimo Trentin wrote:Yes Ruggero ,you're right,around the village we could only see wall lizards and loads of horseflies.
We found snakes higher,but no walser :? .


Yes Massimo, I've controlled and we were maximum between 1700 and 1750 meters above sea level.
Next time we will join Jeroen's group: they will show us where to find the walser, and we will show them how to be persecuted by horseflies! :lol:

:lol: :lol:
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Ruggero Morimando » Wed Oct 05, 2016 6:07 am

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In situ female, with recently eaten prey


Yesterday I've seen my first walser viper: a female basking with a recently eaten prey in the early morning hours.
It was the only snake found yesterday, and it was found at a well lower (!) altitude than the aspis vipers seen this summer: exactly the opposite one would expect having to do with berus adders.
I knew it was a "walser", this is clear, but in any case I would have thought..."this is a very strange snake... surely not an aspis and not a typical berus either..." :lol:
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Re: trip for Vipera walser

Postby Massimo Trentin » Wed Oct 05, 2016 7:04 am

Happy to see you finally found her :D . and glad to see she will face winter with a good meal.
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