New Pelodytes species

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New Pelodytes species

Postby Gabriel Martínez » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:33 pm

Hi all,

For the people that don´t know, 2 new Pelodytes species have been recently described (I knew about atlanticus, but hespericus surprised me):

http://biotaxa.org/Zootaxa/article/view ... a.4243.1.1

Cheers!
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Re: New Pelodytes species

Postby Mario Schweiger » Tue Mar 14, 2017 5:46 pm

thx!
will add it to the db soon ;)
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Re: New Pelodytes species

Postby Daniel Kane » Tue Mar 14, 2017 10:36 pm

Interesting read. Thanks for sharing, Gabri.

Makes you wonder how many more cryptic species could be hiding in plain sight within Europe...
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Re: New Pelodytes species

Postby Alexandre Roux » Tue Mar 14, 2017 11:01 pm

Can't access, will wait for it in the db
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Re: New Pelodytes species

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Wed Mar 15, 2017 9:19 am

The eastern split at least seems too premature. You don't split species without careful study of what's going on at contact zones. I really dislike the tendency to split species that are likely to be just subspecies.
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Re: New Pelodytes species

Postby Mario Schweiger » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:22 am

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:I really dislike the tendency to split species that are likely to be just subspecies.


+1 ;)

now in db: 10994
also updated the species db. hope, not to made to much mistakes (although in "overlapping/hybrid areas", I kept both species within the keywords)
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Re: New Pelodytes species

Postby Alex Moss » Wed Mar 15, 2017 10:49 am

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:The eastern split at least seems too premature. You don't split species without careful study of what's going on at contact zones. I really dislike the tendency to split species that are likely to be just subspecies.



Totally agreed, Jeroen.
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Re: New Pelodytes species

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Wed Mar 15, 2017 1:01 pm

But I should add that the amount and variety of the presented data is impressive!
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Re: New Pelodytes species

Postby Peter Oefinger » Thu Mar 16, 2017 1:52 pm

A new species - and I got a shot of it: great! I am the amphibian king! :lol:
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Pelodaytes cf. hespericus from Alcala de Jucar

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:The eastern split at least seems too premature.
kill-joy...
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