Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

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Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

Postby Bobby Bok » Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:48 pm

Laura and I have been in Northern Portugal for a week after Christmas. Although it was rather cold and dry, we tried to find as many animals as possible. Especially Fire Salamanders were seen in the craziest places, from urban parks to coastal dunes.

Click here for the report:
https://www.herpsafari.nl/tripreports-eu/2018-12-nw-portugal/

And here for more pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/140164286@N07/albums/72157702620117132/page1

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Salamandra salamandra gallaica

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Chioglossa lusitanica

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Alytes obstetricans boscai
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Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

Postby Pablo Deschepper » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:26 am

Beautiful scenery. If unicorns existed, they would be found in that enchanted forest! Congrats on the photography, I enjoyed all of the Salamandra pictures very much!
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Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

Postby Jose Luis Perez » Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:45 am

Congratulations Bobby! You did really well finding all of those amphibian species. The pictures are great, thanks for sharing.
I have one doubt. You mention Lissotriton boscai ssp. maltzani. I thought this taxa was only present in the Southwestern tip of Portugal (Algarve). Is there any recent literature about it?
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Postby Niklas Ban » Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:58 pm

Great report as usual ! Enjoyed it very much thanks for sharing! :)
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Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:37 pm

Indeed, a salamander in dunes :shock: , amazing.
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Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

Postby Ray Hamilton » Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:54 am

Enjoyed the report and some lovely photos as well. Thanks
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Postby Jose Luis Perez » Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:10 pm

I forgot to comment on the possible Triturus hybrid in my previous post... It clearly has intermediate characters. For me it is the gold medal of your trip. I wonder if the contact zone of both taxa has been properly studied... Well done Bobby!
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Postby Bobby Bok » Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:18 pm

Thanks a lot for the comments guys!

Jose Luis Perez wrote:I have one doubt. You mention Lissotriton boscai ssp. maltzani. I thought this taxa was only present in the Southwestern tip of Portugal (Algarve).


This was lazy copy-pasting a specieslist from a previous trip, is fixed now :D


Jose Luis Perez wrote:I forgot to comment on the possible Triturus hybrid in my previous post... It clearly has intermediate characters. For me it is the gold medal of your trip. I wonder if the contact zone of both taxa has been properly studied... Well done Bobby!


It actually has! Still very interesting to see this in-situ and for us also one of the highlights of the trip together with the fire salamanders at weird places. Further reading on the hybrids: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328134841_Morphological_and_molecular_characters_to_describe_a_marbled_newt_hybrid_zone_in_the_Iberian_peninsula
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Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

Postby Jose Luis Perez » Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:08 am

Very interesting article. I didn't know it. Thanks Bobby.
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