interesting video on Lampropeltis californiae

[Mario Schweiger]

on the Canary island Gran Canaria (23:36)

Better view, watching it on YouTube (click the link in the right corner below video)

[Bobby Bok]

Interesting video (even though my Spanish is a bit rusty...), after missing this species last year in California it looks like I have to go to the Canary Islands to see them

[Alexandre Roux]

Interesting video (even though my Spanish is a bit rusty...), after missing this species last year in California it looks like I have to go to the Canary Islands to see them

What is great is that you have great subtitles !

[Mario Schweiger]

What is great is that you have great subtitles !

different languages?
I see German ones

[Alexandre Roux]

What is great is that you have great subtitles !

different languages?
I see German ones

There's also french and english

[Jeroen Speybroeck]

It's a nice video, for sure. I'm not too convinced that this snake will surely wipe out the lizards, though - more often than not, an alternative equilibrium sets in. A predator without food is a dead predator. That doesn't mean it couldn't happen or that it's a good thing to have them, and the comparison with Guam should cause worry for sure. That being said, I doubt that eradication is achievable in this case. Just look at the habitat - it's so reminiscent of California deserts and full of shelter. Doing nothing is probably worse and they do show some interesting methods in the video, but there may be more useful ways to spend Life money? But, yeah, invasives are a hot topic. Habitat loss of native species is so much more boring. Acknowledging that rats and cats have created much bigger problems for centuries on Gran Canaria and elsewhere is too, I guess.

Another thing, the guy saying that we need to worry about the threat these snakes pose on frogs, needs to check his facts. The frogs are non-native and the snake is unlikely to eat them.

If crazy Dutchmen want to see a not-ugly-albino getula (the californiae split is still debated, as far as I know) "in the wild", I can buy them one in a shop at 1km from my home and release it in my garden so they don't have to fly all the way to the Canaries. Hey, wait a minute... wasn't that what someone did with Elaphe schrenckii?
Joking aside, I wish people got fined heavily for deliberately (or even by neglect) releasing animals.

I realise that what I wrote may be provocative. I'd love to read other people's opinions.

[Jeroen Speybroeck]

Hurray, another one!

http://www.natuurpunt.be/news/taiwanese ... Y04E_ntmko

[Mario Schweiger]

Hurray, another one!

http://www.natuurpunt.be/news/taiwanese ... Y04E_ntmko

Now you should be happy up there
Finally two very nice species "established" in the BeNeLux

[Alexandre Roux]

Hurray, another one!
http://www.natuurpunt.be/news/taiwanese ... Y04E_ntmko

Is there any document about all the invasive snakes cases in Europe?

We found more and more Corn snakes in France (but still nothing to worry about contrary to Snapping turtles...) and I remember of a Taiwanese rat snake in Brittany found 4 years ago.

[Mario Schweiger]

It's a nice video, for sure. I'm not too convinced that this snake will surely wipe out the lizards, though - more often than not, an alternative equilibrium sets in. A predator without food is a dead predator.

For sure. But: People never will have the chance to get rid of them. In this rocky habitat the snakes may hide everywhere and for sure, they have thousands now on the island. And, as the vernacular name says, Lampropeltis are kings, feeding on everything of suitable size.

......but there may be more useful ways to spend Life money?

Yes, for example: building tunnels below roads on Milos island. But where is the difference? With or without tunnels, schweizeri's will not get extinct by traffic or trying to led them through tunnels. OK, that was provocative now, Sir

Habitat loss of native species is so much more boring. Acknowledging that rats and cats have created much bigger problems for centuries on Gran Canaria and elsewhere is too, I guess.

But maybe we (they) have learned from that?

Another thing, the guy saying that we need to worry about the threat these snakes pose on frogs, needs to check his facts. The frogs are non-native and the snake is unlikely to eat them.

Dont know, but floridanus eats frogs - seen by myself