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Re: A few photos from Galicia - June 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:41 pm
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Of course, I will post something, but don't expect much.

Re: A few photos from Galicia - June 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 2:43 pm
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Although the answer is likely different, 'why is Lacerta green' reminds me of 'why is arvalis blue'. Tougher questions then we may think at first.

Re: A few photos from Galicia - June 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 3:31 pm
by Ilian Velikov
Michal Szkudlarek wrote:not in Lacerta agilis

True.

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Although the answer is likely different, 'why is Lacerta green' reminds me of 'why is arvalis blue'. Tougher questions then we may think at first.

I guess you're right, but it could also be as simple as that... In any case I can't and wouldn't dare to try and guess a definitive answer. I was just saying (more to myself than others) that it's not so surprising Lacerta don't occupy completely rocky areas (like e.g. Podarcis or ammodytes) and that color-wise they fit better in an environment of lush vegetation.

Re: A few photos from Galicia - June 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:09 pm
by Michal Szkudlarek
Ilian Velikov wrote:
Michal Szkudlarek wrote:not in Lacerta agilis

True.

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Although the answer is likely different, 'why is Lacerta green' reminds me of 'why is arvalis blue'. Tougher questions then we may think at first.

I guess you're right, but it could also be as simple as that... In any case I can't and wouldn't dare to try and guess a definitive answer. I was just saying (more to myself than others) that it's not so surprising Lacerta don't occupy completely rocky areas (like e.g. Podarcis or ammodytes) and that color-wise they fit better in an environment of lush vegetation.

maybe they gave green colouration because they are good climbers and can be observed on bush (camouflage)?
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Re: A few photos from Galicia - June 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 4:17 pm
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Valid points by my book, gents. To a certain extent, it also may fit within the Podarcis genus, with a number of greener species being more ground-dwelling than their climbing relatives...

Re: A few photos from Galicia - June 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 7:25 pm
by Berislav Horvatic
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Valid points by my book, gents. To a certain extent, it also may fit within the Podarcis genus,
with a number of greener species being more ground-dwelling than their climbing relatives...

I suppose you meant the "rock-climbing" relatives... since Michal meant "bush-climbing" animals...
The point is in greenery as the substrate, not in climbing as such - if I got it right.

Re: A few photos from Galicia - June 2017

PostPosted: Wed Jul 26, 2017 11:40 pm
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Berislav Horvatic wrote:
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Valid points by my book, gents. To a certain extent, it also may fit within the Podarcis genus,
with a number of greener species being more ground-dwelling than their climbing relatives...

I suppose you meant the "rock-climbing" relatives...

Yes.

Re: A few photos from Galicia - June 2017

PostPosted: Thu Jul 27, 2017 8:06 pm
by Berislav Horvatic
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Yes.

OK, that settled, what do you think of the positive (?) correlation of green/greenish lizards
and the green(ish) substrates they preferably inhabit? Could it be that simple?