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water turtle ID

PostPosted: Sat Dec 16, 2017 8:02 pm
by miguel santos
Hi everyone,
I took these two pictures of a turtle last September in Portugal.
The location was Lagoa de Albufeira some 25Km South of Lisbon (not Albufeira in the Algarve)
I can't really identify the species, is this a Leprosa???
Is this an American species?
Please have a good look and give me your thoughts.

Greetings,

Miguel

Re: water turtle ID

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 8:28 am
by Mario Schweiger
looks like a very old slider (Trachemys sp.)
do you have a better image (full size?)

Re: water turtle ID

PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 7:07 pm
by miguel santos
Yes I do,
I'll look for the Original and send it.

Re: water turtle ID

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 8:00 am
by Mario Schweiger
thanks for the pics ;)
Yes, it is a slider for sure!
Old, especially females of ssp. elegans turn to complete black very often.
On the carapax you can see the typical T. scripta pattern still a bit.
look at these pictures - nearly complete black too
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Re: water turtle ID

PostPosted: Mon Dec 18, 2017 5:53 pm
by miguel santos
Thanks for the ID Mario,
I had never seen a T. scripta with such a dark skin and no markings on it's neck.
Greetings.