Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. lusitanica

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Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. lusitanica

Postby Jose Luis Perez » Mon Dec 10, 2018 2:20 pm

Hi all

I have recently been to Portugal. Not a herping trip. But I managed to have some hours to search for Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. lusitanica, the subspecies south of river Mondego. I have never seen it before. I found two of them at two different sites. What a beautiful creature.

Here are some pictures:

https://www.flickr.com/photos/90167464@ ... 258484921/

Kind regards
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. brevitarsis

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Dec 10, 2018 3:48 pm

Well done and nice shots, but I think you mean brevidigitata?
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. lusitanica

Postby Jose Luis Perez » Mon Dec 10, 2018 4:32 pm

No. I mean brevitarsis.

Page 85 of this:

https://www.researchgate.net/publicatio ... onservacao
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. brevitarsis

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:02 pm

Brevidigitata and brevitarsis (which was never published outside this piece of grey literature and as such isn't even listed on ASotW) are junior synonyms of lusitanica. The subspecies south of the Mondego River is the nominal morph lusitanica. The northern morph is longipes.
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. brevitarsis

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:02 pm

Arntzen, J. W., D. S. J. Groenenberg, J. Alexandrino, N. Ferrand de Almeida, and F. Sequeira. 2007. Geographical variation in the golden-striped salamander, Chioglossa lusitanica Bocage, 1864 and the description of a newly recognized subspecies. Journal of Natural History. London 41: 925–936.
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. brevitarsis

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:04 pm

Note that the author of brevitarsis co-authored the 'new' arrangement, so this is pretty much final.
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. lusitanica

Postby Jose Luis Perez » Mon Dec 10, 2018 6:10 pm

Thanks Jeroen!
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. lusitanica

Postby Bobby Bok » Tue Dec 11, 2018 2:16 pm

Nice pictures Jose! Looking forward of seeing more Chioglossa myself at the end of the month :)
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. lusitanica

Postby Kevin Byrnes » Tue Dec 11, 2018 6:08 pm

Well done Jose, was this the spot I mentioned?
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Re: Chioglossa lusitanica ssp. lusitanica

Postby Jose Luis Perez » Tue Dec 11, 2018 7:52 pm

Kevin Byrnes wrote:Well done Jose, was this the spot I mentioned?

I saw it in two diferentes sites. One was your spot Kevin. Thanks!
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