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Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Thu Jan 24, 2019 9:48 pm
by Bobby Bok
Laura and I have been in Northern Portugal for a week after Christmas. Although it was rather cold and dry, we tried to find as many animals as possible. Especially Fire Salamanders were seen in the craziest places, from urban parks to coastal dunes.

Click here for the report:
https://www.herpsafari.nl/tripreports-eu/2018-12-nw-portugal/

And here for more pictures:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/140164286@N07/albums/72157702620117132/page1

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Salamandra salamandra gallaica

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Chioglossa lusitanica

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Alytes obstetricans boscai

Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:26 am
by Pablo Deschepper
Beautiful scenery. If unicorns existed, they would be found in that enchanted forest! Congrats on the photography, I enjoyed all of the Salamandra pictures very much!

Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 10:45 am
by Jose Luis Perez
Congratulations Bobby! You did really well finding all of those amphibian species. The pictures are great, thanks for sharing.
I have one doubt. You mention Lissotriton boscai ssp. maltzani. I thought this taxa was only present in the Southwestern tip of Portugal (Algarve). Is there any recent literature about it?

Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 2:58 pm
by Niklas Ban
Great report as usual ! Enjoyed it very much thanks for sharing! :)

Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Fri Jan 25, 2019 4:37 pm
by Michal Szkudlarek
Indeed, a salamander in dunes :shock: , amazing.

Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 9:54 am
by Ray Hamilton
Enjoyed the report and some lovely photos as well. Thanks

Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 3:10 pm
by Jose Luis Perez
I forgot to comment on the possible Triturus hybrid in my previous post... It clearly has intermediate characters. For me it is the gold medal of your trip. I wonder if the contact zone of both taxa has been properly studied... Well done Bobby!

Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2019 11:18 pm
by Bobby Bok
Thanks a lot for the comments guys!

Jose Luis Perez wrote:I have one doubt. You mention Lissotriton boscai ssp. maltzani. I thought this taxa was only present in the Southwestern tip of Portugal (Algarve).


This was lazy copy-pasting a specieslist from a previous trip, is fixed now :D


Jose Luis Perez wrote:I forgot to comment on the possible Triturus hybrid in my previous post... It clearly has intermediate characters. For me it is the gold medal of your trip. I wonder if the contact zone of both taxa has been properly studied... Well done Bobby!


It actually has! Still very interesting to see this in-situ and for us also one of the highlights of the trip together with the fire salamanders at weird places. Further reading on the hybrids: https://www.researchgate.net/publication/328134841_Morphological_and_molecular_characters_to_describe_a_marbled_newt_hybrid_zone_in_the_Iberian_peninsula

Re: Northern Portugal in winter 2018/2019 - tripreport

PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2019 11:08 am
by Jose Luis Perez
Very interesting article. I didn't know it. Thanks Bobby.