Expeditione orientalis

Georgia, Armenia, Azerbaidshan, etc.

Expeditione orientalis

Postby Edvard Mizsei » Fri Dec 11, 2009 6:30 pm

Dear All,

We are planning a trip to go there on the next summer. I'm looking for informations about reptiles from this region. If anibody know some interesting place, pleas write me! I don't want correct coordinates...only place name, maybe how to get there or where to stop. :) We're interested about all other informations, including info about the countries and borders!

8 crazy biology student - 2 car - 2 motorbike - 21 days - 8500 Km
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Edvard Mizsei » Sun Dec 13, 2009 1:31 pm

If no advices, let's go speak about which species lives there :?: (I know some... :D but, not amphibians.. :roll: )
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Vlad Cioflec » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:35 am

Hi,

I see that you want to cross from Romania into Ukraine via Moldavia.
Moldavia is quite ok now that the communists no longer have the power , but the silly, so called country of Transnistria could be tricky. Expect delays and be prepared to give bribes in order to pass through.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transnistria

I can tell you what to expect in those parts of Romania and Moldavia that you will cross, but i guess that you care about the most eastern countries.

Cheers!
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Dec 14, 2009 9:58 am

Hi Edvard,
Although I think's that's an extremely attractive route (for herping) + regardless of bribes, safety, etc. , don't you think that with an average of over 400km/day on not all-that-great roads, you will have too little time to herp and enjoy?
In any case, it might deliver a crazy trip report, so I'm very curious to see how it works out!
Little or no knowledge of these areas, so I'm afraid I cannot be of much help.
You will have seen these, I guess
http://www.klooiplek.com/default.aspx?s ... u=menu%3D7
http://www.herpetofauna.at/berichte/geo ... _Teil1.php
http://www.wildlife.ge/
g's,
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Dec 14, 2009 10:00 am

Why the northwestern loop?
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Edvard Mizsei » Mon Dec 14, 2009 11:17 am

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Why the northwestern loop?


If we can't entry to Azerbaijan after Armenia. In the border crossing points there are some technical difficulty, hard to entry... More problems raised about Abhazian Autonomy. :x

In this time I try to get diplomatic passports, maybe with this we have the solution. :roll:
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Raf Knyazchyan » Tue Jan 12, 2010 12:19 pm

Hi, Edvard, i think, i know a bit about it. you can not depart in Abkhazia from Georgia.and you can not depart in Georgia with abkhazian seal in papers.georgians will arrest you for a illegal trespass.so it was before war and i think that now it also so.in Armenia you can depart only from Georgia.say me when you ride and can be i will say what reptiles/amphibians youwill see..
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Edvard Mizsei » Sat Jan 23, 2010 3:46 pm

Hi Raf!

Thanks for advice, I will contact you. Do you think we can meet there?
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Raf Knyazchyan » Sun Jan 24, 2010 1:37 pm

Hi, Edvard! Now i'm in South Ukraine. I catch snakes in spring.I don't know where will be in summer, but help you to know about this countries, except Azerbaidzan
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Re: Expeditione orientalis

Postby Thomas Bader » Sat Apr 10, 2010 11:47 am

Dear Edvard!

I can give you some hints for Georgia.
If you are interested, contact me through office@herpetofauna.at

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