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Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Magnus Karlsson » Sun Jun 03, 2012 9:11 am

Dear all!
The taxonomy of European lizards has changed drastically during the last decade or two. The classical fieldbooks such as Arnold and Overden seem out of date or lacking in detail. I need to know if there are any updated field guides with reliable keys for the European lizard fauna? If there are please include all details on the books, ISBN-number and where they can be ordered.

Thanks!

/Magnus
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Re: Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Daniel Kane » Sun Jun 03, 2012 2:37 pm

If it is reliable and up-to-date data you are after then I would suggest that you stick to peer-reviewed journals. As you say there have been many species splits over the last few years and these will render a published book out-of-date, whereas articles describing such splits should be recent and most importantly reliable. Hope this helps.
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Re: Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Peter Oefinger » Sun Jun 03, 2012 3:26 pm

www.lacerta.de
No book can cope with that.
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Re: Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:27 pm

But what about skinks and geskos?
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Re: Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Peter Oefinger » Sun Jun 03, 2012 4:48 pm

4 Gecko species - no problem.
At the skinks Arnold is (almost) still up to date.
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Re: Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Mario Schweiger » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:32 pm

...or you look into the Amphibians & Reptiles database, linked here ;)

Skinks are all online with new systematics, also the geckos except one: Euleptes europaea - will follow the next days

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Re: Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Mario Schweiger » Sun Jun 03, 2012 5:37 pm

Mario Schweiger wrote:also the geckos except one: Euleptes europaea - will follow the next days

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done ;)
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Re: Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Sun Jun 03, 2012 6:11 pm

Yes, it is really helpful. But in comparison with lacerta.de it lacks distribution maps and (sub)species list by country. Would be also great to note how to noninvasively distinguish subspecies and sexes if possible.
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Re: Good fieldguide to European lizards?

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Tue Jun 05, 2012 6:00 pm

Michal Szkudlarek wrote:how to noninvasively distinguish subspecies

Why bother if (a) most of them are anachronistic concepts of long ago and (b) the vast majority is allopatric?

Michal Szkudlarek wrote:sexes if possible

Femoral pores for lacertids works fine for me. Other lizzies bit more difficult...
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