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by **Jeroen Speybroeck** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 1:55 pm

Evidence has been accreting that the Pelodytes of most of (western) Portugal may represent a species in its own right. A new paper seems to confirm this. Moreover, it hints that yet another new species occupies much of Spain, excluding the range of the South-Central Iberian Pelodytes ibericus and Catalonia where (together with France and NW Italy) the "leftovers" of Pelodytes punctatus sensu stricto reside.

http://www.sciencedirect.com/science/ar ... 0314004254

Watch for updates in Mario's database for the full article.

To pimp the news, here's one of each from my archives. Why not turn this into a wintery "I love Pelodytes" thread, so add your shots too!?

Pelodytes punctatus s.s. (June 2011, C France)

Pelodytes ibericus (December 2010, Cádiz province, Spain)

Pelodytes ?sp. nov. 1 - Portugal (December 2010, Algarve)

Pelodytes ?sp. nov. 2 - C, NW and E (except NE) Spain (April 2006, Murcia)

by **Robin Duborget** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 2:39 pm

There is any morphological difference between these new species ?

I only know Pelodytes from the Var, in France (so Pelodytes punctatus), especially in a little pond where they are very common :

10/2013

09/2014

11/2014

I certainly love Pelodytes

Robin

by **Jeroen Speybroeck** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 4:21 pm

Great shots, especially with those predation and amplexus examples, thanks!

Who's got some more..?

More info on the potential split => PDF-7411 in Mario's literature database

by **miguel santos** » Mon Jan 05, 2015 10:53 pm

Hi there,
Here are then 3 pics from 2 "new" Pelodytes.
They came from the area of Sesimbra ( south of Lisbon ) in April 2013.
I gess I have to try and find some more for new pictures. I thought they were commun

Miguel

by **Jeroen Speybroeck** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 12:12 pm

That second one sure is colourful!

I'm throwing in one additional pic from France to illustrate some variability.

by **Robin Duborget** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 3:32 pm

Your trio is very beutiful, especially the one to the right !

More from france, Var :

by **Bert Vandebosch** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 6:42 pm

Very nice pictures Robin.

To keep the king happy:

A picture of the first Pelodytes I ever saw, which He personally guided me to.

: North of France 2012

by **Bobby Bok** » Tue Jan 06, 2015 7:56 pm

I love Alytes and adore Hyla and with Pelodytes seeming somehow an odd mixture of these two taxa, I love them too!

Pelodytes punctatus from La Brenne, France.