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Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 10:03 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Apparently the Spanish translation is already out since 21/04/2017... :roll:

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Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 4:23 pm
by Michal Szkudlarek
Jeroen are you sure Rana arvalis wolterstorffi is present in south-western Poland?

Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 7:50 pm
by Berislav Horvatic
Michal Szkudlarek wrote:Jeroen are you sure Rana arvalis wolterstorffi is present in south-western Poland?

Are you sure Rana arvalis wolterstorffi does exist as a (valid) subspecies at all, anywhere?

Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Tue Aug 01, 2017 8:15 pm
by Michal Szkudlarek
Berislav Horvatic wrote:
Michal Szkudlarek wrote:Jeroen are you sure Rana arvalis wolterstorffi is present in south-western Poland?

Are you sure Rana arvalis wolterstorffi does exist as a (valid) subspecies at all, anywhere?

no :P

Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:32 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Although genetically there's clearly a northern and a southern group, it is indeed debatable, especialy since the so-called characteristic morphology does not seem to coincide with those groups...

Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:39 am
by Michal Szkudlarek
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Although genetically there's clearly a northern and a southern group, it is indeed debatable, especialy since the so-called characteristic morphology does not seem to coincide with those groups...

so you discard the idea of subspeciesness of Rana arvalis wolterstorffi?

Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:42 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Maybe. Possibly. Probably. Possibly. Maybe.

Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 12:43 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
I'm guessing the Litvinchuk and Babik papers are in Mario's database.

Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Thu Aug 03, 2017 7:17 pm
by Michal Szkudlarek
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:I'm guessing the Litvinchuk and Babik papers are in Mario's database.

Did not you mean http://vipersgarden.at/PDF_files/PDF-1921.pdf ?

Re: A&R guide Speybroeck et al. - review it!

PostPosted: Fri Aug 04, 2017 5:55 pm
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Michal Szkudlarek wrote:
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:I'm guessing the Litvinchuk and Babik papers are in Mario's database.

Did not you mean http://vipersgarden.at/PDF_files/PDF-1921.pdf ?

No, see answer in SA thread and more other sources online. Be a doll and look something up yourself once in a while.