Siculus/melisellensis?

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Re: Siculus/melisellensis?

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Fri Jun 01, 2012 7:34 am

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:maybe I have been posting too much irony lately.


Please don`t stop that, I like your new style
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Re: Siculus/melisellensis?

Postby Mario Schweiger » Fri Jun 01, 2012 8:31 am

Would say: Michal´s is a siculus too! by head proportions and the only slightly visible dosal stripe.
More or less amelanistic individuals may occur everywhere. See Amph.-Rept. Database: Podarcis siculus: central row: 1st and 4th from top, right row: 5th from top. all island Krk.

Maarten Gilbert wrote:Both species can easily be mixed up.To illustrate this; the pictures shown in Dieter Glandt's "Taschenlexikon" under the P. melisellensis species account look suspiciously sicula-like to me... :?


it doesnt look like...............................
This comes from some crazy statement by ????, there are NO siculus on Pag island!

pag_siculus2.jpg


pag_siculus1.jpg

both near Vlasici, July 2010

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Re: Siculus/melisellensis?

Postby Rok Grzelj » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:41 am

So this guy should be siculus too!?(from Starigrad/Paklenica)
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and what is this?
http://galerija.foto-narava.com/display ... pos=-53007
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Re: Siculus/melisellensis?

Postby Mario Schweiger » Fri Jun 01, 2012 9:52 am

This is siculus for sure!
And the one, linked to, is a melisellensis - even, if I wouldnt have seen the origin of the specimen ;)

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Re: Siculus/melisellensis?

Postby Rok Grzelj » Fri Jun 01, 2012 4:25 pm

Thank you Mario ;-)

Interesting things this islands...NO siculus on Pag , but they are found under the Velebit coastline parallel to Pag
also Malpolon is present on Cres but not on the same latitude of the coastline...
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Re: Siculus/melisellensis?

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Sat Jun 02, 2012 1:38 am

Rok Grzelj wrote:NO siculus on Pag


:? I'm confused... Is that what you meant, Mario...?
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Re: Siculus/melisellensis?

Postby Mario Schweiger » Sat Jun 02, 2012 8:16 am

No, isnt!
There are siculus on Pag island, at least on some places across the whole island.
These two on my pics are near the Village Vlasici in the "south" of the island.

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Re: Siculus/melisellensis?

Postby Rok Grzelj » Sat Jun 02, 2012 9:28 am

Sorry...my mistake.
I missunderstood the "statment" "NO siculus on Pag"
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