Lizards from the Bosphorus

[Gergely Horváth]

Hello everybody, first of all thanks to accepted me as a member!

I spent a few days in Istanbul recently and I took the pictures of these guys around the city. Could you help me identify them?

I guess the first one is a Podarcis sicula, but I'm not entirely sure about it. In the neighbouring asian provinces lives a Darevskia species which looks very similar to me.

And about the second, I haven't got any clue... And sadly the picture isn't the best.

Thanks for your help.

[Peter Oefinger]

For me they both look like siculus. There also exist uniform morphs.
Cheers
Peter

[Mario Schweiger]

1st: siculus for sure!
2nd: not sure, but maybe tauricus (to short and broad head for siculus?)

Mario

[Gergely Horváth]

Thank you Peter and Mario!

Meanwhile I made some research on the second one and it's turned out that both of them are siculus. P. siculus hieroglyphicus to be more precise.

Gergő