podarcis muralis or erhardii? Eastern Greece.

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podarcis muralis or erhardii? Eastern Greece.

Postby Maykel van Gent » Sat Feb 21, 2015 8:39 am

Hey,
I am having a little trouble with this ID from eastern greece. I am not sure what good field marks are to distinguish these two species.

http://observado.org/waarneming/view/97772560
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Re: podarcis muralis or erhardii? Eastern Greece.

Postby Peter Oefinger » Sat Feb 21, 2015 9:31 am

Looks like erhardii for me.
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Re: podarcis muralis or erhardii? Eastern Greece.

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Sat Feb 21, 2015 10:05 am

Yes. Also a typical "textbook" place to find that species in that area.
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Re: podarcis muralis or erhardii? Eastern Greece.

Postby Ilias Strachinis » Sat Feb 21, 2015 3:48 pm

erhardii indeed
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Re: podarcis muralis or erhardii? Eastern Greece.

Postby Maykel van Gent » Sun Feb 22, 2015 7:29 pm

Okay, thanks for taking away my doubts. But I still don't really know why. What makes this one so obviously erhardii and not muralis?
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Re: podarcis muralis or erhardii? Eastern Greece.

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Feb 23, 2015 9:32 am

Centre of back without vertrebral line (= relatively unspotted). Pale dorsolateral bands, which are rather wide. No copper-coloured eye, no red on throat. These are all "soft" criteria, but still sufficient.
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Re: podarcis muralis or erhardii? Eastern Greece.

Postby Maykel van Gent » Mon Feb 23, 2015 6:23 pm

Thanks, that'll help next time.
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