Hyla quiz

[Jürgen Gebhart]

Wich species or subspecies is it????
Any idea???

[Wolfram Schurig]

For the big tympanum I would suggest rather Hyla intermedia than H. arborea!? Although the flank-stripe is quiet narrow - maybe you have discovered a new ssp, Jürgen!!

wolfram

[Jürgen Gebhart]

Hähähä,
It happens what I expected, not many are really interested in identify a frog.
It`s a Hyla intermedia.
At the first look it is not so easy to see the difference between intermedia and arborea.
The simplest way is to look at the throat, intermedia have some green on that.
Here to males for example.

But there is a very big difference in the tadpoles!!!
Arborea tadpoles are grey-brown with no markings.

Intermedia tadpoles have in the first two month (of course it is up to the water temperature)
Stripes!

When they get older the stripes disappear and the looks very close to the arborea tadpoles.
(Sadly I have no pics about that)

[Wolfram Schurig]

TÄTÄRÄTÄÄÄ!!!
...but it was a bit difficult to find out for snakers since the throat was not really visible....

wolfram

[Jürgen Gebhart]

That`s the reason why I use this pic, otherwise it would be to simple.

[Tibor Sos]

very nice, thank you for informations...

[Tibor Sos]

although I have pictures with H. arborea tadpoles from Romania, in early stadiums of development, similar (more and less) with your intermedia...





what do you think about?

this stadium of arborea must be compared with your intermedia picture, not your arborea, where the tadpole is obviously in other stadium of development (older, bigger)...

[Jürgen Gebhart]

"Your" tadpole realy looks closer to the intermedia than to the arborea.