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Hyla quiz

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 7:06 pm
by Jürgen Gebhart
Wich species or subspecies is it????
Any idea???

hyla_.jpg

Re: Hyla quiz

PostPosted: Mon Oct 12, 2009 8:21 pm
by Wolfram Schurig
For the big tympanum I would suggest rather Hyla intermedia than H. arborea!? Although the flank-stripe is quiet narrow - maybe you have discovered a new ssp, Jürgen!! :D

wolfram

Re: Hyla quiz

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 7:20 am
by Jürgen Gebhart
Hähähä,
It happens what I expected, not many are really interested in identify a frog.
It`s a Hyla intermedia.
At the first look it is not so easy to see the difference between intermedia and arborea.
The simplest way is to look at the throat, intermedia have some green on that.
Here to males for example.
intermedia_arborea_.jpg

intermedia_arborea_2_.jpg

But there is a very big difference in the tadpoles!!!
Arborea tadpoles are grey-brown with no markings.
arborea_tadpole_.jpg

Intermedia tadpoles have in the first two month (of course it is up to the water temperature)
Stripes!
intermedia tadpole.jpg

When they get older the stripes disappear and the looks very close to the arborea tadpoles.
(Sadly I have no pics about that)

Re: Hyla quiz

PostPosted: Sat Oct 17, 2009 9:36 am
by Wolfram Schurig
:mrgreen: :mrgreen: TÄTÄRÄTÄÄÄ!!! :mrgreen: :mrgreen:
...but it was a bit difficult to find out for snakers ;) since the throat was not really visible....

wolfram

Re: Hyla quiz

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:13 am
by Jürgen Gebhart
That`s the reason why I use this pic, otherwise it would be to simple.

Re: Hyla quiz

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:55 am
by Tibor Sos
very nice, thank you for informations...

Re: Hyla quiz

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:07 am
by Tibor Sos
although I have pictures with H. arborea tadpoles from Romania, in early stadiums of development, similar (more and less) with your intermedia...

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Image

what do you think about?

this stadium of arborea must be compared with your intermedia picture, not your arborea, where the tadpole is obviously in other stadium of development (older, bigger)...

Re: Hyla quiz

PostPosted: Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:20 am
by Jürgen Gebhart
"Your" tadpole realy looks closer to the intermedia than to the arborea.