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Testudo and Lacerta

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:39 am
by Bernard Carrette
I'm quite sloppy when it comes to identification of reptiles, just enjoy the encouter, take a picture if I can, file the picture and then forget to make the proper identification. I will correct this behavior as one of my good intentions for the new year! So meanwhile, when going through some pictures of this year, I found this two ones for which I'm not quite sure. Location : Greece, South Peloponnese (Mani penninsula). Can someone help me?
First I guess Testudo hermanni : although the narrowed shape in the middle looks like a marginata, the scales on the forelimbs makes me think of a hermanni.

Second : I guess a Lacerrta graeca juvenile. The flattened shape, the spots on the flanks and top tends toward graeca, but I still have a doubt as Podarcis peloponnesiaca is quite abundant here and can been seen almost every day with good weather conditions.

Re: Testudo and Lacerta

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 10:58 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Marginata and graeca, I think. If you want to switch to the updated names of the species (it's been ten years since that was a Lacerta) and have a tool to help with IDing herps, our book is not that expensive. ;)

Re: Testudo and Lacerta

PostPosted: Fri Jan 13, 2017 6:34 pm
by Ilias Strachinis
Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Marginata and graeca,


I agree :)