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Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Tue Sep 24, 2013 8:43 pm

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Postby Vlad Cioflec » Wed Sep 25, 2013 7:34 am

Bat-toad...he's the hero fieldherping.eu deserves, but not the one it needs right now. :geek: :lol:
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Postby Niklas Ban » Wed Sep 25, 2013 12:41 pm

Vlad Cioflec wrote:Bat-toad...he's the hero fieldherping.eu deserves, but not the one it needs right now. :geek: :lol:

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Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Wed Apr 16, 2014 5:08 pm

Two fangs good, a hundred legs better: juvenile viper devoured by an adult centipede it had ingested

http://ecol-mne.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... -et-al.pdf
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Re: news

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Thu Apr 17, 2014 2:15 pm

Michal Szkudlarek wrote:Two fangs good, a hundred legs better: juvenile viper devoured by an adult centipede it had ingested
http://ecol-mne.com/wp-content/uploads/ ... -et-al.pdf

In general, this invertebrate is extremely tough: it is very hard
to kill a full-grown Scolopendra (personal observation).

A very interesting scientific claim. I can't help wondering how a "personal observation" like that
is carried out in practice... And by whom? (The name of the "observer" not given...)

BTW, how would you quantify "the easiness of killing a particular animal"?
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Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Thu Apr 17, 2014 5:34 pm

I can't help wondering how a "personal observation" like that is carried out in practice

Maybe someone has tried to kill a full-grown scolopendra.

how would you quantify "the easiness of killing a particular animal"?

By applying certain actions and measuring effects?
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Postby Guillaume Gomard » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:06 pm

It's still interesting to read about this kind of observation, which reminds me the post we had last year:

viewtopic.php?f=13&t=1703&p=16378&hilit=vipers+insects#p16378

Berislav Horvatic wrote: A very interesting scientific claim. I can't help wondering how a "personal observation" like that
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I personally observed at several occasions S. cingulata half-destroyed by cars (or others) which were really active for a long time after the accident (observed in Spain and South of France, for instance), so maybe the authors had similar experiences. For the rest (easiness of killing a given animal), I agree that it would be more relevant to speak about the effectiveness of a given venom with respect to a given prey and provide LD50-like values. I guess that this communication should only be taken as "simple" report rather than a "real" scientific paper (even if the authors are scientists!).
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Re: news

Postby Ilian Velikov » Thu Apr 17, 2014 6:14 pm

Berislav Horvatic wrote:BTW, how would you quantify "the easiness of killing a particular animal"?


Michal Szkudlarek wrote:By applying certain actions and measuring effects?


You should apply a hell of a lot of actions and consider countless factors. Surely there's more than one way to kill something, some easier/harder than others. Also quite important "very hard to kill" by who?...If we talk about humans, I don't think it's hard for us to kill any animal. As for Scolopendra, I accidently stepped on one once and it died immediately.
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Re: news

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Apr 18, 2014 12:59 pm

Regardless, it got picked up internationally, as it seems...

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Postby Ilian Velikov » Fri Apr 18, 2014 1:42 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Regardless, it got picked up internationally, as it seems...


Yes, it was even on Yahoo news as well.
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