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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Jun 29, 2015 3:08 pm

Niklas, are there currently sizeable reproducing Lithobates populations in Germany?
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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Niklas Ban » Mon Jun 29, 2015 4:57 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Niklas, are there currently sizeable reproducing Lithobates populations in Germany?

Yes, there is at least one reproducing Lithobates population in Westphalia, but there is not much knowledge about them.
"Mittlerweile sind reproduzierende Populationen aus dem Bonner Raum belegt. Von zwei weiteren Gartenteichen wurde bekannt, dass die dort ausgesetzten Ochsenfrösche wieder eingefangen wurden. Aus anderen Regionen, so aus dem Raum Unna, gibt es Hinweise auf sich vermehrende Ochsenfrösche, „die dort in vielen Gärten seien“. Originator : http://www.herpetofauna-nrw.de/arten/ne ... /index.php
It does say, that there are reproducing populations near Bonn and maybe a population near Unna. If someone else know other populations in Germany please add it.
And thank you for the clarification of S. italicus!
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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Mario Harzheim » Mon Jun 29, 2015 5:37 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Niklas, are there currently sizeable reproducing Lithobates populations in Germany?

As far as I know, there is a population near Karlsruhe reproducing for quite a while. I can't name a proper source right now, but I think this was the first place of Lithobates' reproduction in Germany I've heard about.
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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Peter Oefinger » Tue Jun 30, 2015 5:50 am

Some addition to the German list:
- Podarcis liolepis
- Zamenis longissimus could be an ancient introduction
- Natrix tessellata at Ahr-Valley seems to be a Balkan introduction (if the population still exists)
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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Christoph Stenger » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:21 am

Peter Oefinger wrote:Some addition to the German list:

- Zamenis longissimus could be an ancient introduction


Which German population are you referring to? I thought the cause of an ancient introduction had been denied for quite some time.

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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Peter Oefinger » Tue Jun 30, 2015 8:43 am

Christoph Stenger wrote:I thought the cause of an ancient introduction had been denied for quite some time.

I know: There is the opinion that the German longissimus are natural relict populations - but I don't know who is right (I'm not the snake expert).
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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Christoph Stenger » Tue Jun 30, 2015 9:41 am

So you are referring to all German populations?
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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Mario Harzheim » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:05 pm

Christoph Stenger wrote:So you are referring to all German populations?

I think he is referring to the isolated, western populations. In Joger et al. (2006) ("Phylogeographie, Artbildung und pleistozäne Einwanderung mitteleuropäischer Reptilien") the German and Austrian Z. longissimus poulations constitute one central European phylogenetic cluster.
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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Peter Oefinger » Tue Jun 30, 2015 4:49 pm

Yes. I meant the Hessen populations. Are there others than these?
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Re: Introduced species per country

Postby Niklas Ban » Tue Jun 30, 2015 6:06 pm

Peter Oefinger wrote:Yes. I meant the Hessen populations. Are there others than these?

Yes, Peter there are other (Passau) oh and Lacerta bilineata is also introduced as Natrix natrix persa and Natrix natrix scutata.
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