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Ilian Velikov wrote:Second, on the "misunderstanding" - Still no explanation to what happened? The last time I had a look Jeroen, expressed his concerns over the disclosure of the place and next thing I know it was all deleted and called "stupid discussion", which I don't think it was. Obviously, I missed something...?
Ilian, I have apologised to Paul for hijacking his post. From what Erich wrote, it was also clear I was misunderstood. For those who are interested in "the stupid discussion", here it is.
There is (of course) nothing wrong with Paul's post, I loved it. Let me explain.
Within the last year or so there have been 3 reports (Paul, Alexandre Roux and the http://www.herpetofauna.at crew) visiting 2 spots (strinatii & italicus caves) that I think I only shared with 3 people. Of course, people can find these spots themselves (as Paul told me he did), but it felt too much of a coincidence to me. That's why I (perhaps irrelevantly) expressed my sadness about trust issues. This has nothing to do with blaming people who visit these spots and I hold the writers of those 3 reports all in high esteem. Of course, those places are not "mine" and I have enjoyed helping countless herpers as well as many have helped me. It does, however, make me wonder how information is passed on and how it may jump from a few good people (like the ones mentioned) to a too large audience that tends to include people who are less concerned about the limited resilience numerous populations of European herps unfortunately have.
That's it. Apologies to all who were (and maybe are still or even more now) offended.