4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

For your reports/images, made outside Europe and the "Mediterranean" countries. Not to be too narrow minded and limited to our European/Mediterranean herps.

Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Peter Oefinger » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:23 am

Wow - plenty of species and great snakes! Why are the European ones so boring?
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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Rok Grzelj » Wed Sep 26, 2012 9:49 am

Belgians strikes again!!
Congrats...nice pics and findings.
Start to think to adopt me and take me with you :D
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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Paul Lambourne » Wed Sep 26, 2012 11:54 am

Peter Oefinger wrote: Why are the European ones so boring?


Peter, I appreciate that a history of caneing it in Hollands finest clubs in the Nineties, and sniffing too many orchids must eventually take its toll on the little grey cells, but European snakes boring????? The colour variation of aspis, the beauty of najadum and situla, the Western Palearctic dominance of berus,the tickle my belly and call me daddy cuteness of fallax and modestus, the hooded coolness of monspessulanus..and the majesty of xanthina..

So fickle, ooh its got a rattle.. :D Typical response from a lacertophile... :D

:D Paul
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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Peter Oefinger » Wed Sep 26, 2012 12:51 pm

You are right, Paul: What are the colours of Jeroen's longnose snake, coral snake, mnt king, ring necked... compared to the colour symphony of Vipera berus: grey, dark grey, brownish grey... - really stunning! :lol:
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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Paul Lambourne » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:49 pm

OMG! lizard boy, dont dis the berus...... :x

Do these look drab to you!!!

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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Niklas Ban » Wed Sep 26, 2012 1:57 pm

:shock: the original color?
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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Mario Schweiger » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:39 pm

Very nice findings and - for sure - top pictures!
Yes, there´s the herping heaven across the lake ;)

Maybe, because this island is just occupated by a lot of humans since a "few Years"

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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Thomas Reich » Wed Sep 26, 2012 2:43 pm

Great post, great animals, great colours!

Thanks for including some landscape pics. It's always nice to see how the habitats look like. Did you travel through entire Arizona? Did you visit parts of neighbouring states? Would be nice to see a rough map of where all these amazing animals have been found.
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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Matthijs Hollanders » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:25 pm

Nice stuff. I love those lyres, I missed vilkinsonii in the Big Bend. A few comments (I lost track of them as I went through your post): the pic of the molossus on the road makes its head look HUGE; nice habitat shots; I giggled when you said bi-colored longnose just because some of the morph-freaks would act condescendingly about calling that a "bi-color", but I think that's silly (nice snake!); cool looking pink coach; crazy looking night snake (the second one); f*ck you for reminding me I'm back in this shithole.

Also, I've never been, but how many other herpers on that quadrangulare road? ;)
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Re: 4 Belgians, 2 weeks, AZ

Postby Matthijs Hollanders » Wed Sep 26, 2012 3:29 pm

Paul Lambourne wrote:
Peter Oefinger wrote: Why are the European ones so boring?


Peter, I appreciate that a history of caneing it in Hollands finest clubs in the Nineties, and sniffing too many orchids must eventually take its toll on the little grey cells, but European snakes boring????? The colour variation of aspis, the beauty of najadum and situla, the Western Palearctic dominance of berus,the tickle my belly and call me daddy cuteness of fallax and modestus, the hooded coolness of monspessulanus..and the majesty of xanthina..

So fickle, ooh its got a rattle.. :D Typical response from a lacertophile... :D

:D Paul


I'm with Peter, sorry... especially when you're stuck in the northwest without money/transportation. A shitty night in East Texas yielded more than five species of snake, easily. I could probably name you ten species I could find in one night and I'd still leave without my target.
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