Macedonie Lizard

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Macedonie Lizard

Postby André Van Hecke » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:29 pm

Who can help me with the ID of this lizard from Macedonie. I suppose it is a Lacerta viridis ? (subadult)
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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:32 pm

Yes, that's what it is
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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby André Van Hecke » Thu Aug 31, 2017 3:56 pm

Sincere thanks Jeroen for your reaction and confirmation!
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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby Mario Schweiger » Fri Sep 01, 2017 9:32 am

I am not sure - I even doubt - this is a Lacerta viridis.
Would be interesting, the exact location the specimen is from.

Here are 2 young specimens of Lacerta trilineata from northern Greece (Macedonia) from the same location. green and brown individuals together.
And, for sure, no Lacerta viridis is there - much to dry ;)

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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby Ilian Velikov » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:08 pm

Mario, you do have a point. The one from your first photo looks very similar...
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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:54 pm

Ilian Velikov wrote:Mario, you do have a point. The one from your first photo looks very similar...

Yes, it does...
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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Sep 01, 2017 3:56 pm

Scalation hard to make out. Maybe we'll never know?
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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby Ilian Velikov » Fri Sep 01, 2017 4:30 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:Maybe we'll never know?

Most likely.
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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby Ilian Velikov » Fri Sep 01, 2017 5:26 pm

Seems to have fewer and larger temporal scales which would indicate viridis but as Jeroen pointed out scalation is difficult to make out.

Mario Schweiger wrote:And, for sure, no Lacerta viridis is there - much to dry

Mario, there are viridis in northern Greece. And at least in Bulgaria I've found them in rather dry places, and very close to the Bulgarian/Greek border as well. So are you completely sure that the one from your first photo is trilineata?
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Re: Macedonie Lizard

Postby Mario Schweiger » Sat Sep 02, 2017 9:56 am

Ilian Velikov wrote:So are you completely sure that the one from your first photo is trilineata?


YES, the point closest was approx. 50 or more kilometers away.
I was wrong with the greece district. it is northern Thessalia.
here a picture from the location
damasi.jpg

And, v. meridionalis lives in much more dry localities than v. viridis, living in northern central Greece, e.g. at Olympos mountain, Ossa mountain, Pinios delta.
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