Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Stéphane Aubry » Sat Oct 27, 2012 5:52 pm

I have to book a good hotel in Eilat, leaving my wife at the beach and going to herp in the desert with my children ;)

When did you go there ? In october ?
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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Kristian Munkholm » Sat Oct 27, 2012 6:33 pm

This time around, October.

Last year I was there in May, herping was better - 5 days, 40 species (13 snake species). One night in the dunes, 8 C. cerastes, 4 C. vipera, 2 Lytorhynchus diadema.

Have fun :)
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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Stéphane Aubry » Sat Oct 27, 2012 11:02 pm

Kristian Munkholm wrote:This time around, October.

Last year I was there in May, herping was better - 5 days, 40 species (13 snake species). One night in the dunes, 8 C. cerastes, 4 C. vipera, 2 Lytorhynchus diadema.

Have fun :)


Thanks for the informations !
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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Mario Schweiger » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:55 am

Very nice shots of Cerastes!

Platyceps sp. "gender confusion":

Platyceps is masculine without doubts!
"tessellata" and "subnigra" have to be turned to masculine, when using them without var(ietas), last one is feminine. And attributes, like tessellata and subnigra have to use the gender, to whom they are connected. So Platyceps rhodorhachis var(ietas) tessellata, but Pl. tessellatus and Pl. rhodorhacis var. subnigra, but Pl. subniger.

See also discussion here on the gender of Eirenis:
http://www.fieldherping.eu/Forum/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=1313

For a "true" split, i think we have to wait until biochemical data are available. Just color variation and a (clinal) variation in subcaudals seems to be (imho) not enough to split.

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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Pierre-Yves Vaucher » Sun Oct 28, 2012 6:17 pm

wonderful, love it, thank's for discover me new ssp of Cerastes !!! GREAT !! bravo et merci, Love the ambiance picture !!
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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:05 pm

Congrats Kristian!! Especialy the Gasperettii! Need more pics from this species!!

btw. do you find something for me? ;)
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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Kristian Munkholm » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:32 pm

Thanks, guys :)

Jürgen Gebhart wrote:Congrats Kristian!! Especialy the Gasperettii! Need more pics from this species!!

btw. do you find something for me? ;)


Jürgen, sorry no Daboia. As I said, it was a family vacation so I didn't have time to waste looking for trash snakes ;)
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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Bobby Bok » Sun Oct 28, 2012 7:47 pm

Cerastes vipera is so awesome, really cool stuff!
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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:09 pm

Kristian Munkholm wrote:Jürgen, sorry no Daboia. trash snakes ;)


Mr. Munkholm you are out! I don`t talk to you any more!!!
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Re: Israel family vacation, part 1 - Cerastes trifecta

Postby Kristian Munkholm » Sun Oct 28, 2012 9:30 pm

Peace offering:

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