Trip report jordan 05/2012

Israel, Jordan, Syria, Lebanon, Iraq, Iran, Turkey, Cyprus

Re: Trip report jordan 05/2012

Postby Thomas Bader » Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:36 pm

Thank you very much for this - I do highly appreciate that!
I always thought, that B. balearicus is an introduced viridis...

Yes I noticed that Glandt still had it in his list.
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Re: Trip report jordan 05/2012

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Tue Mar 05, 2013 3:49 pm

Thomas Bader wrote:I always thought, that B. balearicus is an introduced viridis...

Well, yes, Thomas, the Balearic populations were introduced. I believe at least the Corsican ones too, if I remember well. However, due to the lack of a senior synonym (in spite of temporary advocation of the name Bufo lineatus by some Italian authors), this name also would have to be used for the populations of the Italian mainland, Tyrrhenian islands, NE Sicily, etc.
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Re: Trip report jordan 05/2012

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Tue Mar 05, 2013 6:06 pm

Biside the name

What is the Micrelaps in the "full-Body" Pic, a black snake with yellow bands or a yellow snake with black Bands?
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Re: Trip report jordan 05/2012

Postby Gerald Ochsenhofer » Tue Mar 05, 2013 7:51 pm

Rabbit or duck ;-)
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Re: Trip report jordan 05/2012

Postby Thomas Bader » Tue Mar 05, 2013 8:40 pm

Hmm this was a good question - and now also back to Mario's objection: maybe they are really Micrelaps tchenrovi or even a third species - why? If you compare the picture in Werner et al. 2006 on page 34 the pattern doesn't fit with both species. Our snakes had a uniform black venter, the bars didn*t cross - so no muelleri.
In tchernovi the bars don't cross the venter, but they have a bright venter. Ours had a black venter - see picture - strange... but rather tchernovi than muelleri
sorry for "no hands"...

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P.s. After reading the whole paper: Micrelpas tchernovi - Mario: you were right
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Re: Trip report jordan 05/2012

Postby Thomas Reich » Wed Mar 06, 2013 11:11 am

Thanks for this excellent, informative and entertaining report.
Already looking forward to the next one!
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Re: Trip report jordan 05/2012

Postby Bobby Bok » Thu Mar 07, 2013 11:28 am

Great stuff guys, love the scenery shots! Also a nice balance between regular tourist attractions and herping.
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Re: Trip report jordan 05/2012

Postby GertJan Verspui » Fri Mar 08, 2013 6:10 pm

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