Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Ulrich Schulte » Mon May 02, 2011 6:19 pm

Fantastic, Jürgen.
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Kevin Byrnes » Mon May 02, 2011 11:15 pm

Wow, well done, what a great trip and the some beautiful pictures.
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Guillaume Gomard » Tue May 03, 2011 9:45 am

So many nice things on this forum right now that I did not have the time to look at this. Congrats for your trip, the pictures are amazing (Echis, Pseudocerastes, and so on) and it seems that there was really a fielherping synergy! Could you tell us a bit more about the Echis? (what kind of behaviour? Some story to tell from the local people about this snake?...).I guess you know this link but just in case (not in english... :( )

http://www.megasphera.cz/africanvenomou ... oratus.htm
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Tue May 03, 2011 2:01 pm

Kristian Munkholm wrote:Absolutely astonishing :shock:

If I have half your luck I'll be thrilled ;)


Great work!


Kristian it was luck, but not only. We work really hard for the success.
We flipped tones of Rocks, have our hands in tons of trash and garbage, we eat only junk food on the gas station. We needed our Hotel rooms just for a short sleep and a shower.
I wish you all the best for your trip, I keep my fingers cross!!!
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Jürgen Gebhart » Tue May 03, 2011 2:03 pm

Guillaume Gomard wrote: Could you tell us a bit more about the Echis? (what kind of behaviour? Some story to tell from the local people about this snake?...).I guess you know this link but just in case (not in english... :( )

http://www.megasphera.cz/africanvenomou ... oratus.htm


Yes, I know this.
The people told me, that in areas where Echis coloratus occur, they are the most common snakes there. But we don`t found that much, because of the cold weather.
The one we found in the northeast is an Echis coloratus terraescantae.
The four we found in the middle are integrates Echis coloratus ssp.
The one we found in the south is an Echis coloratus coloratus, only Gabri have pics from that snake, but this is another story (fu..ing Birdwatchers!)

I pictured many snakes in the wild and captive, but I never had models like Echis coloratus.
They never try to bite during the shooting, they were all-times friendly and they lay like ever you want and don`t try to escape.
But you have to be careful, don`t lose the respect, otherwise you are dead!
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby GertJan Verspui » Tue May 03, 2011 4:14 pm

Great trip, great photos, I am a little bit jealous(Very).....
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Kristian Munkholm » Tue May 03, 2011 4:15 pm

Jürgen Gebhart wrote:
Kristian Munkholm wrote:Absolutely astonishing :shock:

If I have half your luck I'll be thrilled ;)


Great work!


Kristian it was luck, but not only. We work really hard for the success.


I know (well, I figured) hence the "Great work!". I certainly did not mean to belittle your effort. Luck, generally, plays only a minor role and when finds day after day are as impressive as this, well, it's probably not just luck ;)

Jürgen Gebhart wrote:I wish you all the best for your trip, I keep my fingers cross!!!


Thank you :)
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Gerald Ochsenhofer » Tue May 03, 2011 10:41 pm

... i'm just jealous... ;-)
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Guillaume Gomard » Wed May 04, 2011 8:08 am

The one we found in the northeast is an Echis coloratus terraescantae.
The four we found in the middle are integrates Echis coloratus ssp.


Thanks for your reply. I was just wondering if terraescantae was still a valid subspecies. I understood from the 2009 paper by E.Pook that it was no more the case.
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Re: Israel - In search of the Holy Grail!!

Postby Gabriel Martínez » Wed May 04, 2011 3:08 pm

Hi everybody!!

Here is the large version of the Israel trip:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/gabrimtnez ... 9646/show/

Like always if you find something wrong in the names or something like that please let me know it for learn more and more about our fantastic mediterranean herps. Sometimes it´s very difficult and all the help will be good received!!!

Regards

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