Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

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Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Daniel Kane » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:01 pm

Just wondering if anyone has any firm evidence (literature or a sighting you feel is certain) for the northern limit of the Coin-marked snake. I have read about anecdotal reports from Lesbos in the Aegean but nothing about the Turkish mainland.

Similar for the (Masked) Dwarf snake - some sources it mention about this species' distribution possibly extending into the European part of Turkey, but what is the true story?

Any thoughts welcome.
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:38 pm

Eirenis modestus - I should dig through my emails, but Wouter Beukema has even pictures of the specimen from Turkish Thrace. It's somewhat of a mission of ours to go and confirm this one day.

Hemorrhois - the Lesbos record is not an anecdote, because our very own Daniel Bohle was one of the first, if not the first, to find the species on Lesbos. Recent records exist for Chios and Samos - all unpublished so far. The mainland records are indeed weirdly vague. I have spent quite some time trying to find the source for the claims for Turkish Thrace, without any luck...
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Daniel Bohle » Tue Oct 02, 2012 8:59 pm

I was second :(
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Bobby Bok » Wed Oct 03, 2012 9:10 am

More people have found nummifer on Lesbos, see video ->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8leAjMeKagA

At 5:55 there's the nummifer.
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Daniel Bohle » Wed Oct 03, 2012 2:54 pm

cool music, I need to go to greece as soon as possible :lol:
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Wed Oct 03, 2012 5:31 pm

Bobby Bok wrote:More people have found nummifer on Lesbos, see video ->

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8leAjMeKagA

At 5:55 there's the nummifer.


And that's the first record (as far as I know). Not too many records so far, I think, after all.
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Bobby Bok » Thu Oct 04, 2012 11:41 am

More info about that first sighting (in Dutch but Google Translate might help):
http://www.warf.nl/vijf_jaren_herpetolo ... and_lesbos
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Oct 22, 2012 2:50 pm

This has been published also.

Hofstra, J. (2008). An addition to the herpetofauna of the Greek island Lesbos. Pod@rcis 9(1): 2-10.

I've sent the PDF to Mario.
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Mario Schweiger » Tue Oct 23, 2012 7:29 am

added!
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Re: Hemorrhois nummifer/Eirenis modestus distribution

Postby Thomas Bader » Wed Feb 06, 2013 4:21 pm

Have seen this older thread just now and wanted to add, that Christoph Riegler and Franz Rathbauer found a huge coin snake on Chios in 2010 or 11. Pictures available
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