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Vipera berus population densities

Postby Daniel Kane » Fri Oct 12, 2012 9:51 am

Hi,

For some university work I am trying to work out the population density for my local adder site. I'm having a bit of trouble finding other research with V. berus densities, population sizes etc... to campare to and would much appreciate some literature to help me on my way!
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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Daniel Bohle » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:07 am

Can help you tonight ;-D

the main probem here, people measure it different. maybe someone know if there is a rule how to do it right.
should we count all animal or just adults?
should we calculate with the total land area of the monitoring side, the total useable area (whats usable;-) or just the total used area?
if we use the total used area (just a few m²) and all animals we might get a huge number compared to total land area and just adult!
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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Mario Schweiger » Fri Oct 12, 2012 10:20 am

Hi Daniel,

seach the database: keywords contain "mertensiella" and check Mertensiella 15.
There are some of this book (Mertensiella 15: Verbreitung, Ökologie und Schutz der Kreuzotter (Vipera berus [Linnaeus, 1758])) in the database (unfortunately nearly all in German language).
I have the book and may scan to PDF the others.

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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Oct 12, 2012 11:27 am

Mario Schweiger wrote:Mertensiella 15: Verbreitung, Ökologie und Schutz der Kreuzotter (Vipera berus [Linnaeus, 1758])) in the database (unfortunately nearly all in German language).

At least...
http://www.crepinstitute.co.za/pdf/Adder.pdf
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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Daniel Kane » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:07 pm

Jeroen Speybroeck wrote:http://www.crepinstitute.co.za/pdf/Adder.pdf


Thanks for that one - a study similar to mine (although much longer-term) however there seems to be a lack of detail explaining how population size was estimated. Seems to me that it was done purely by the author seeing (essentially) all snakes within the study areas and no estimates appear to have been made using software such as CAPTURE. I am looking more for capture-recapture data, preferably on Vipera. I have seen a paper on the black swamp snake which seems like it would be more helpful but I cannot access the full version. A paper on Euleptes which used this programme seems like it would great for me if is had been on Vipera!

Salvidio, S. & Delaugerre, M. (2003). Population dynamics of the European leaf-toed gecko (Euleptes europaea) in nw Italy: implications for conservation. Herpetological Journal, 13. 81-88.

Winne, C., Dorcas, M. & Poppy, S. (2005). Population structure, body size and seasonal activity of black swamp snakes (Seminatrix pygaea). Southern Naturalist, 4(1). 1-14.
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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Liam Russell » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:23 pm

You should contact David Sewell at the University of Kent, has been doing lots of research on this kind of thing lately.

http://www.kent.ac.uk/sac/staff-profiles/profiles/conservation-ecology/research-and-pt-staff/sewell_david.html
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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:46 pm

This is really frustrating: I have just what you need, very nicely written, but in Croatian:

University of Zagreb, Faculty of Science, Department of Biology
Graduation Thesis
IGOR VILAJ:
COMMON ADDER, Vipera berus (SQUAMATA, VIPERIDAE) IN CROATIA:
POPULATION ECOLOGY, MICROHABITAT PREFERENCES AND
THERMOREGULATION
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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Oct 12, 2012 12:57 pm

I wouldn't focus too much on vipers in my literature hunt, unless you see reasons why the method should be species-specific?
I need to dig in to this stuff myself...!

The variance associated with your estimate is crucial - there's no point in obtaining estimates if the variance is much larger (e.g. an estimate of 3 with an error of 5000 says nothing), but sorry if that's all trivial to you.
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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Daniel Bohle » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:18 pm

As I said bevore, I don´t think capture-recapture data is very usefull for vipera berus.
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Re: Vipera berus population densities

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Oct 12, 2012 1:29 pm

Daniel Bohle wrote:As I said bevore, I don´t think capture-recapture data is very usefull for vipera berus.

That's too general a statement for me to be persuaded by... You just have to deal with the choices you presented somehow. Habitat use assumptions are tricky.
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