Acanthudactylus aureus or pardalis??

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Acanthudactylus aureus or pardalis??

Postby miguel santos » Mon Aug 18, 2014 2:54 pm

Hellow everybody,
I went recently with my family for some days to the south of Morocco. It was my firsf time in the area and it will not be the last I hope.
The trip was only partly herp orientated but as usually we saw quite some animals.
I need you help with a few lizzards. on this topic I have a few pics that I believe to be of Acanthodactylus aureus and of A. pardalis.
As for the juveniles, I have no idea to wich species they belong. Any help is highly appreciated.

Miguel
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DSC_0008 logo a Sul de Aglou plage (640x436).jpg
? south of Aglou plage at the coast but not in dunes. ( about 60 Km south of Agadir and 30 Km south of Sidi r'bat
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DSC_0007 Sidi R'bat (640x429).jpg
? in Sidi r'bat not directly by the sea
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DSC_0006 Sidi R'bat (640x481).jpg
? dunes by the beach in Sidi r'bat
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DSC_0005 Sidi R'bat (640x426).jpg
? dunes by the beach in Sidi r'bat
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DSC_0004 a Este de Tifnite (640x429).jpg
aureus ? 15 Km North of Sidi r'bat in the dunes
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DSC_0013  Sidi R'bat (640x433).jpg
acanthodactylus pardalis????? in Sidi r'bat
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DSC_0010 Sidi R'bat (640x426).jpg
acanthodactylus pardalis ? in Sidi r'bat
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DSC_0009  Sidi R'bat (640x483).jpg
acanthodactylus pardalis ? in Sidi r'bat
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DSC_0002 melhor Sidi R'bat (640x425).jpg
acanthodactylus aureus in Sidi r'bat
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DSC_0001 Sidi R'bat (640x426).jpg
acanthodactylus aureus in Sidi r'bat
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Re: Acanthudactylus aureus or pardalis??

Postby Alberto Sanchez » Sat Aug 23, 2014 11:14 am

Hi Miguel, I think that the adult forms are well identified (three adults of pardalis complex and the last two of aureus). Most juveniles looks like aureus to me, because of their snout form, except for the first one...I dont sure with the first picture (maybe pardalis complex???)
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Re: Acanthudactylus aureus or pardalis??

Postby Mario Schweiger » Sat Aug 23, 2014 2:09 pm

Sorry for beeing late :oops:
Adults ok.
Juveniles:
3rd (looking into the camera): aureus.
the others are hard to determine, but all look like aureus.
Do you better pictures (crops) of the head (large 4th supralabiale)?

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Re: Acanthudactylus aureus or pardalis??

Postby miguel santos » Sat Aug 23, 2014 3:11 pm

Hi Alberto and Mario,
Thanks for both replies. In the mean time I was already pretty confident about the adulds.
I saw some of Mario's pics from Tiznit on your site.
I could not find many info about the aureus to try and identify the juveniles.
I'll make a few crops in as high quality as I have.
It will be later in the day I think.
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Re: Acanthudactylus aureus or pardalis??

Postby miguel santos » Sat Aug 23, 2014 8:39 pm

here are some magified pictures from the juvenile acanthodactylus.
I wonder if they are clear enough.
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DSC_0425 logo a Sul de Aglou plage.JPG
DSC_0073 Sidi R'bat.JPG
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DSC_0055 Sidi R'bat.JPG
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DSC_0017 a Este de Tifnite.JPG
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Re: Acanthudactylus aureus or pardalis??

Postby Mario Schweiger » Sat Aug 23, 2014 9:48 pm

seems all are aureus, the 1st 3 100%, the last 2 99,9%
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Re: Acanthudactylus aureus or pardalis??

Postby miguel santos » Sun Aug 24, 2014 8:56 am

Thanks a lot for your help. The last 2 pics are from the same specimen . There were were a few adults is the area and it was a very sandy.I think based on the habitat that it might be aureus.
How do you identify them?
I will probably go back soon....
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