Thomas Bader wrote:Yes Bero, I meant the second one between croatica and macrops. Dusan presented it last year in Vienna and if I remember correctly, it was quite a clear border with a high difference between the two clades
They do seem to be well separated genetically, but to find the physical border in the field, one needs many more
field trips... And Bosnia is heavily mined, which does not help... We have an "educated guess" where the border
MIGHT lie, but it has to be confirmed by more DATA.
You may have noticed that in this paper they do not insist on subspecies at all - for most of the time they just talk
about the SPECIES V. ursinii in this region, whatever it might comprise.
BTW, the conspicuous wide gap between Montenegro and Macedonia proved NOT to divide what we expected...
the "educated guess" proved too nice & simple to be true... which was a nice warning not to jump to conclusions
too fast in other cases as well.
Patience, my friend. People are working on it, and I'm also eager to hear the final results.