Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

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Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Fri Jan 04, 2019 9:21 pm

Below some appetizers for the trip report => https://www.hylawerkgroep.be/jeroen/index.php?id=95

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Lyciasalamandra fazilae ulfetae

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Lyciasalamandra luschani luschani

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Lyciasalamandra luschani finikensis

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Lyciasalamandra billae irfani

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Lyciasalamandra antalyana antalyana
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Fri Jan 04, 2019 10:35 pm

Pity we did not meet.
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:32 am

Michal Szkudlarek wrote:Pity we did not meet.

Sorry, man. The only way to get what we got in only five days is by full focus and extreme time management. I am even still recovering a bit right now ;)
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Mario Schweiger » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:03 am

as usual, very nice good written trip report :!:
And the hole spectrum of these nice salamanders photo documented :o

The only way to get what we got in only five days is by full focus and extreme time management

That sounds familiar: like we want to meet at the horvathi point in Carinthia, but you left the evening before after some shots :lol:
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Sat Jan 05, 2019 9:30 am

Mario Schweiger wrote:
The only way to get what we got in only five days is by full focus and extreme time management

That sounds familiar: like we want to meet at the horvathi point in Carinthia, but you left the evening before after some shots :lol:

:oops: :mrgreen:
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Jose Luis Perez » Sat Jan 05, 2019 1:58 pm

Wonderful Jeroen! You must have enjoyed a lot. The ulfetae is stunning, what a gorgeous salamander. Turkey is a top place for urodeles, I must go some year... Thanks for sharing this beauties.
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Bobby Bok » Sat Jan 05, 2019 8:16 pm

Great job on finding all these little gems, makes me want to go back there... :D
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Michal Szkudlarek » Sun Jan 06, 2019 10:28 am

Jeroen, I could join you from the begining.
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Sun Jan 06, 2019 7:50 pm

Michal Szkudlarek wrote:Jeroen, I could join you from the begining.

I have to admit that over the years I have been become (very) selective about who I travel with. For more than a bit, this is because I am not easy myself. Ask those who traveled with me, so I don't have to make any confessions around here ;) :oops: .

Also, never change a winning team. If you know that it will go smoothly with someone who is just as focused to go for it and who is just as OK as you to consider sleeping, eating and other basic needs as of limited importance, there is little gain in trying out new travel companions. There is virtually no one who fits that perfect description better for me personally than Wouter, so that's the obvious reason why we went together. You need to be really crazy to knowingly skip any decent chance of finding reptiles in favour of getting as many salamander subspecies as possible :P .

A lot of people (by which I am not saying this goes for you too, Michal) see reports and think "I gotta get me some of that" without realising that it can be very hard work to get that kind of result. It may take days or weeks of preparation to get an idea of where and when to search (in this case, about 8 years). During the trip itself, it takes more than average stamina to deconstruct mountains in order to find yet another subspecies. Because of this "lot of people", I am hesitant to try out new company.

I can understand that this can be tough for those who do not have any regular travel companions, but it is was it is, I'm afraid. I have noticed that others on this forum are more open in this perspective and may seek company through the forum, which is great. I would suggest you try to hook up with them.
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Re: Lyciasalamandra frenzy - SW Turkey, December 2018

Postby Kevin Byrnes » Mon Jan 07, 2019 12:58 pm

Well said.
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