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Re: Slovenia and the search for Proteus anguinus
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Sat May 05, 2012 9:12 am
by Steve Devis
Nice photo's.
Verry interesting !
But Proteus anguinus in a garden shed?
Re: Slovenia and the search for Proteus anguinus
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Sat May 05, 2012 12:30 pm
by Laura Bok
Yes, Proteus in a garden shed! Actually, it's P.a.parkelj, and the garden shed has just been built over a hole in the ground, which opens to a subterranean stream. You can observe them there even at daytime. On one of my photos you can see Joachim and Sebastian staring down this hole
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Re: Slovenia and the search for Proteus anguinus
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Sat May 05, 2012 3:45 pm
by Sean Cole
Hi all,
I'm new to this site, and am a Herping beginner, so be kind to me.....I may ask many stupid questions. But if you have reciprocal questions on anything that flies or grows I can probably help.
As for the Proteus, I have been twice to Slovenia to see them, and if anyone needs any advice on Hotels, contact details for the Black proteus, etc, I would be happy to help if you contact me off the group.
Sean Cole, England
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Sat May 05, 2012 6:49 pm
by Peter Oefinger
Sean, nice to meet you here! It's good to have an orchid expert in this forum...
Re: Slovenia and the search for Proteus anguinus
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Sun May 06, 2012 12:36 pm
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Super stuff! Gotta love Slovenia. That second green lizard is indeed very interesting and stunning.
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Sun May 06, 2012 1:53 pm
by Rok Grzelj
As a indigenous person Im ashamed that I havent visited yet the "human fish" spots
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Re: Slovenia and the search for Proteus anguinus
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Tue May 08, 2012 9:57 am
by GertJan Verspui
Hi Lauren, nice photos, love those strange white monsters.....but did you put some extra paint on those Lacertas....
Rok, love your photos toooooo!!
Re: Slovenia and the search for Proteus anguinus
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Tue May 08, 2012 10:14 am
by Jeroen Speybroeck
Allow me to split some hairs here (as you all know I am pathologically good at), by indicating that the subspecies parkelj has been devalidated on the basis of genetic data by Goricki & Trontelj (2006 - Gene 378: 31-41). Weird but true... Apparently, the pigmentation and eye stuff are rather due to phenotypic plasticity.
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Tue May 08, 2012 10:31 am
by Sandra Panienka
Great trip report, I love the pics of the mudpuppies, it is such a weird species and great to look at. The underwater newt shots are very cool, too. What's up with that first green lizard? That's an amazingly beautiful little thing.
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Tue May 08, 2012 11:10 am
by Michal Szkudlarek
Interesting Jeroen, I remember that some scientists were considering it to be distinct species.