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Re: Salamandra salamandra terrestris trip

Postby Pierre-Yves Vaucher » Sat Nov 09, 2013 9:20 am

Hi ! Nice female in first ! lot of yellow. You know exist fast completly Salamandra salamandra terrestris near Holzminden area, more north ?
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Re: Salamandra salamandra terrestris trip

Postby Paul Bachhausen » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:05 pm

Hi Michal
Michal Szkudlarek wrote:What do you mean? What are the differences between wild axolotl and the domesticated ones?

Of topic, so only a short answer:
Ambystoma mexicanum is nearly extinct in the wild. But all over the world millions of Axolotl are bred. That seems to be a good stock for species conservation, but this is wrong!
The first Axolotl came to Europe in 1804. A white Axolotl came to Europe in 1868. Later 1960 Humphrey made hybridization with Tiger salamanders to get albinos (Humphrey axolotl).
Today nearly all kept Axolotls are these hybrids - useless for conservation.
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Re: Salamandra salamandra terrestris trip

Postby Paul Bachhausen » Mon Nov 11, 2013 12:11 pm

Hi Pierre
Pierre-Yves Vaucher wrote: You know exist fast completly Salamandra salamandra terrestris near Holzminden area, more north ?

not more in North.
But most there are also not high yellow, look:
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but also this:
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more:
http://www.salamanderseiten.de/salamand ... olling.htm
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Re: Salamandra salamandra terrestris trip

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Thu Nov 14, 2013 4:41 pm

Needless to say I enjoy every Salamandra post with more than special attention, so thanks! Although some animals look quite remarkable, they practically all fit within the variability of the population I am so fond of, except that fastuosa-like morph which can be found in other Belgian populations (cf. Bert's posts).

I am too lazy to check the reading material I have, so I'm just going to ask: does anyone know about the percentage of natural occurrence of orange individuals within German terrestris populations?
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Re: Salamandra salamandra terrestris trip

Postby Paul Bachhausen » Mon Nov 18, 2013 7:27 am

Hi Jeroen,
I don't know literature about the percentage of natural occurrence of orange individuals. I think it is very different in the different populations.
I saw thousends of terrestris in North Rhine Westfalia, but never saw a red or orange in Nature.
The only one with unusual colour was this axantic one in Ratingen:
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Re: Salamandra salamandra terrestris trip

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Mon Nov 18, 2013 8:01 am

Cool!
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Re: Salamandra salamandra terrestris trip

Postby Bobby Bok » Mon Nov 18, 2013 2:54 pm

That really is an interesting animal, thanks for sharing!
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