Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Rok Grzelj » Tue Aug 09, 2011 2:55 pm

The finding is from an altitude of aprox. 900m ...on a meadow bordering a beech forest... with harsh winters and mild summer temps.
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Tue Aug 09, 2011 4:34 pm

OK, thank you both.
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Rok Grzelj » Tue Aug 09, 2011 5:55 pm

Tomaz Jagar wrote:Since you clearly have caught the snake for the photos it shouldn't be too hard to count the ventrals on the spot, isn't it?
That would answer your question more or less immediately....


Sorry...I didnt see that :-)
In the first sentence I wrote that I know the answer...so... :-)
I also wrote that the snake was an young adult male more than 1 meter long..... ;-)

...and the 2 species to compare
viridiflavus
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gemonensis
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I think its possible to make a mess also with comparing berus and ursinii...and start scale counting etc...
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Tomaz Jagar » Tue Aug 09, 2011 9:53 pm

Rok Grzelj wrote:In the first sentence I wrote that I know the answer...so... :-)
I also wrote that the snake was an young adult male more than 1 meter long..... ;-)


Oops, I missed that part before...
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Rok Grzelj » Wed Aug 10, 2011 8:13 am

I noticed something more interesting on a forum members(Pierre-Yves) website..

Here is the link:
http://www.batraciens-reptiles.com/tren ... ptiles.htm

check in the pic set(last 2 pics) "Jour 5, le 9 mai:"...the pic was taken around Vizinada (N Istria)
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Tomaz Jagar » Tue Jan 31, 2012 4:14 pm

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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Berislav Horvatic » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:07 pm

In the second picture one can see the copper-coloured iris of the eye,
typical for H. viridiflavus, but not for H. gemonensis - the latter have
yellowish irises.
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Tomaz Jagar » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:19 pm

Berislav Horvatic wrote:In the second picture one can see the copper-coloured iris of the eye,
typical for H. viridiflavus, but not for H. gemonensis - the latter have
yellowish irises.


Didn't know that, thanks for that piece of info.

Regards, Tomaz
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:22 pm

Congrats!

P.S.: You lost a word in the title ;)
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Re: Hierophis viridiflavus or gemonensis?

Postby Jeroen Speybroeck » Tue Jan 31, 2012 7:24 pm

Berislav Horvatic wrote:In the second picture one can see the copper-coloured iris of the eye,
typical for H. viridiflavus, but not for H. gemonensis - the latter have
yellowish irises.


Throughout their entire (allopatric) ranges?
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