Some summer herps

[Alexandre Roux]

How great, we may call it Speleomantes zidornus !

[Julius Zidorn]

That´s a good idea

So what should I do in your opinion if I could find another animal?

[Peter Oefinger]

I think it must be something introduced.
I'm no Salamander-expert. Are you sure it is Speleomantes? Can you exclude other (exotic, for example North-American) genus?

[Mario Riedling]

At first I thought of a young Ensatina eschscholtzi. But now on the big computer screen I'm sure I can see a young Speleomantes.
Interesting finding!

[Jeroen Speybroeck]

I don't know each single member of the Plethodontidae family, but it's no Ensatina and it looks a lot like Speleomantes italicus to me. Introduced for sure. I would advice you to gather a small crew of searchers and scrutinize the place during a wet or damp and not too cold night.

[Michal Szkudlarek]

Any update? What species these Speleomantesit are?

[Julius Zidorn]

I´ll go back to "im Solling" tomorrow; I asked some people but they also don´t know which species. Maybe I could find another specimen.

Cheers,
Julius

[Ulrich Schulte]

Hi Julius,

I talked to Michael Veith and he is quite sure that it is a juvenile Hydromantes italicus. He has a lot of reference samples and it would be very interesting to get a sample of one or more individuals from that area to identify the geographic origin of the founders. Please contact him if you find another individual today.

Greetings, Ulli

[Julius Zidorn]

Hi Ulrich,
no salamander search today, but I will stay "im Solling" for a while
Maybe you can give me his contact
Regards,
Julius

[Jeroen Speybroeck]

I talked to Michael Veith and he is quite sure that it is a juvenile Hydromantes italicus.